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Posted on 20/03/20 09:39:33 AM
Steve Caplin
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Challenge 798: The King's Arms
I was going to do a Coronavirus special this week, but I couldn't think of any approach that wouldn't be horribly tasteless. I'm sure you'll find ways to squeeze it in anyway.

I passed this Victorian pub recently, and I was struck by how little this corner had changed in a hundred and fifty years. Of course, there are some anachronisms - the yellow lines on the road, the style of the road names, the Thai menu on the board.

Would it take much to bring more of a Victorian sensibility to this street?

High res is here.



Posted on 20/03/20 09:58:29 AM
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Steve wrote
...Would it take much to bring more of a Victorian sensibility to this street?

Would you care to expand on that Steve?


Posted on 20/03/20 10:49:03 AM
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Mariner wrote:
Steve wrote
...Would it take much to bring more of a Victorian sensibility to this street?

Would you care to expand on that Steve?



Just to remove the more modern elements, and add as many piles of horse dung and urchins as you think appropriate.

Posted on 20/03/20 11:10:16 AM
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Just to remove the more modern elements, and add as many piles of horse dung and urchins as you think appropriate.

I get it. I have many ideas.

Posted on 20/03/20 11:28:15 AM
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Hmmm. Biggest difficulty is probably all the flood lighting.

I definitely like the look of this!

And I am quite happy to leave COVID out of it.


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Posted on 20/03/20 5:45:33 PM
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Challenge 798: The King's Arms
Steve Caplin wrote:
Would it take much to bring more of a Victorian sensibility to this street?


Well now this getting very interesting. I am treating this one completely literally. It's a good exercise. However, the more I remove the obvious anachronisms the more the less obvious start to leap out .... and the more I remove them ...... and so on ...... and so on ........ it's potentially endless ......

So the answer to your question is starting look like 'Much, much more than one might think!'.

But it's fun.

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Posted on 20/03/20 5:50:22 PM
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Looking at the street one of the questions one has to ask is: 'Is this pre or post Sir Joseph Bazalgette?'.

Non Brits can look him up.

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Posted on 20/03/20 5:52:15 PM
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DavidMac wrote:
Looking at the street one of the questions one has to ask is: 'Is this pre or post Sir Joseph Bazalgette?'.

Non Brits can look him up.


Oh, feel free to add as much raw sewage as you like. Smell-o-vision has been disabled for this Challenge.

Posted on 20/03/20 6:31:07 PM
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DavidMac wrote:
Looking at the street one of the questions one has to ask is: 'Is this pre or post Sir Joseph Bazalgette?'.


What's this got to do with bread sticks?

Posted on 21/03/20 09:50:54 AM
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Steve Caplin wrote:
DavidMac wrote:
Looking at the street one of the questions one has to ask is: 'Is this pre or post Sir Joseph Bazalgette?'.

Non Brits can look him up.


Oh, feel free to add as much raw sewage as you like. Smell-o-vision has been disabled for this Challenge.


It was more in the nature of a rhetorical question Steve. Musing out loud ....... but thanks for the heads up.

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Posted on 21/03/20 09:52:12 AM
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Ben Mills wrote:
DavidMac wrote:
Looking at the street one of the questions one has to ask is: 'Is this pre or post Sir Joseph Bazalgette?'.


What's this got to do with bread sticks?


Not a lot. But with manholes rather more .......


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Posted on 21/03/20 3:29:58 PM
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Posted on 21/03/20 7:34:28 PM
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Love the reflections and pothole Gordon!

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Posted on 21/03/20 7:37:27 PM
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Got completely carried away and spent an insane amount of time on this. On the other hand I have plenty of that on my hands at present.

I really loved doing this one.



Complete with Victorian doxy! Worth a click for the big image.



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Posted on 22/03/20 04:01:34 AM
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David that's really superb!! You have missed nothing! That road alone must have taken you ages. I love the smoke and lighting effects. And the people make the scene come to life. Well done! More!

Posted on 22/03/20 04:04:39 AM
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This site doesn't seem to be quite as bad at the moment. If you fixed it, Steve, great!


Posted on 22/03/20 12:26:09 PM
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David that's really superb!! You have missed nothing! That road alone must have taken you ages. I love the smoke and lighting effects. And the people make the scene come to life. Well done! More!


Thank you Michael. This is my kind of challenge. I always enjoy the ones where I can play with atmosphere and lighting. After fifty five years of doing it on movie sets I have a sort of unfair advantage. Doubtless the headmaster will be able to cut me down to proper size.

As for more I have been stuck in front of my screen for two days. My wife is, quite justifiably, feeling neglected. Today is housework.







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Posted on 22/03/20 3:14:00 PM
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Haha! Love it! Sue and I are self-isolating, as everyone should if they are over 70 and can afford it, so I have plenty of time for the Challenge. Too much, really. I will probably finish this one tonight and, I may have to start another one to fill in until Friday. However, I have spotted a difficult-to-solve problem which I am going to tackle first. It is this: when you are trying to draw a tin of paint in perspective, is getting the angle of the lid right just guesswork, or can it be calculated or measured? Here is something sent to me by Deborah Morley, god rest her soul, but it does not answer the question, unless the paint tin is square. Steve doesn't know. Perhaps you could offer some advice.




Posted on 22/03/20 4:44:03 PM
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This is a simplification but these drawings are quite correct. If you have a known vanishing point then inscribe a circle inside a square. Distort the square to conform to the vanishing point. Once this is done delete the square leaving just the circle which will have the correct perspective. Easiest way would be to put the square and circle on separate layers and link or group them. Once the square has been set delete it or switch off its visibility. Same would apply to an ellipse or indeed any shape inscribed within the square.

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Posted on 22/03/20 5:25:49 PM
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Totally off brief but thought I would post it anyway - proper entry coming later in the week



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