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Posted on 15/03/18 1:11:29 PM
DavidMac
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Bye, Bye CC 18
After giving it a four month trial I have cancelled CC 18 and unsubscribed. It took a l-o-n-g online 'chat' with Adobe to get done. They don't make it easy.

After giving it a really comprehensive try I found, that for my personal needs and style of working, it offered little that CS6 X didn't already. Some things have been tidied up and made neater and more convenient such the selection tools - but they don't seem to actually work any better. (Indeed, according to many users and reviewers, not as well). There are various new content aware goodies but I have never been very convinced by them - they look great in the carefully chosen demos but are rather less impressive in 'real life' situations. 3D is faster but still very slow compared to dedicated apps and I find the 3D interface very quirky and unintuitive. I tend to avoid it unless I really have no choice. So the fact that 3D is better and faster than CS6 is not really significant. The really significant and massive difference in CC 18 is cloud integration, but I really have no real use for the cloud services so that's pretty much superfluous. For some reason CC runs slower on my machine than CS6 - particularly with complex brushes which lagged frustratingly on occasions. Finally I found the interface harder to read and more tiring.

In the end I found the longer I used CC the less I used it. At the end of four months I realised I was barely opening it any more, so decided to let it go.

Sooner or later CS6 X will cease to run as my OS is updated and then I will probably have to re-consider but, for the present, working about fifty/fifty between CS6 and Affinity I have all I need for now.

As new versions come out I will take a one month free trial and see if I feel any better ...... but I have a strong impression that Adobe is less interested in improving it's product's inherent qualities per se. than in tying it, and its users, inextricably into the Adobe universe by making it increasingly cloud based. Which in turn means wasting more time trying to navigate and understand a truly appallingly designed and incomprehensible web site.

Time will tell ..............


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Posted on 16/03/18 09:43:27 AM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Bye, Bye CC 18
Well, that's your choice, of course. Personally, I find many of the new features in CC 2018 very appealing - including the new selection tools.

I do make full use of CC libraries, though, and have a separate library for each client in which I store their logos, house colours, type styles, and so on. I find it invaluable.

But if CS6 works for you, then that's probably all you need. Let's hope it carries on working for some years to come.

Posted on 16/03/18 10:17:30 AM
DavidMac
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Re: Bye, Bye CC 18
Yes you have put your finger on one of the key differences. It's what suits different users and their needs. As someone who works for multiple clients the libraries must be a Godsend. For someone like me who works in isolation producing only images for himself this is not really very necessary. CC has added a number of new features but, after giving a fair and quite long trial, I simply didn't find many of them terribly useful or relevant to my personal situation and working methods.

I didn't choose to get rid of CC as a conscious 'I don't like this' decision. I quite simply found that, as the months went by, I used it less and less until in the end it was simply sitting there unopened. At which point the question became not 'Do I like this or not?' but quite simply 'Why keep it if I am not using it?'.

One day CS 6 X will stop working or CC will come up with a new "must have" tool that will make me drool..... but until then I am insufficiently seduced to depart from an "If it ain't broke ........" philosophy.

Presently a combination of CS 6 and Affinity does provide all I need.

Sooner or later that is going to have to change .......

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Posted on 20/03/18 4:03:07 PM
Frank
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Re: Bye, Bye CC 18
Hi David,
My thoughts are the way Affinity is going that's all you'll need in the very near future.

Posted on 20/03/18 6:57:06 PM
DavidMac
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Posted on 20/03/18 6:59:34 PM
DavidMac
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Re: Bye, Bye CC 18
Yes ..... and no ......

Affinity seems to be very tightly focused on photographers and photographic processes. Its full of excellent HDR and Tone Mapping tools and other goodies for the modern digital photographer which I hardly ever need. I work very simply and basically when originating my material.

For someone like me who is much more focused on manipulation an compositing it lacks a number of very basic features and filters and is hostile to many of the plugins that might achieve them. For these and a couple of other things I need to keep using PS. It's not a very big difference ...... but it is a significant one at present.

Although I use Affinity now for 50% of everything I do, it is very hard for me to imagine having to rely on it alone. It rather depends on what they choose to add and improve in the next couple of years.






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Posted on 02/10/19 9:11:10 PM
Tom
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Re: Bye, Bye CC 18
I am now using DXO and Affinity.
Is that cheating?


Posted on 03/10/19 07:53:09 AM
DavidMac
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Re: Bye, Bye CC 18
I am mostly back with CC19 now I have a new machine that can run it better. As a compositor first and foremost, it's better suited to my needs although my feelings towards CC19 are pretty tepid.

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Posted on 03/10/19 08:34:29 AM
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Re: Bye, Bye CC 18
Aaaahhh, CS6 .... or Affinity Photo

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