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Posted on 30/07/07 4:22:24 PM
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Clone Source Palette
In chapter two of the Cheat in CS3 book, I was intrigued by the Clone Source Palette. I am unable to use it effectively on either of the examples that the book provides. With the security guard example, should each sucessive clone result be on it's own layer? If not I seem to get a washed out guard copy each time. If I place a clone on a new layer each time I can go back and erase out the over clone trash. But thats not the way the book describes it.
I've read it over and over and follow it verbatim and still get the same result.

The old stone building window exercise I get a similar result.

thanks for any advice,


ljsnay@cox.net



Posted on 30/07/07 4:38:37 PM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
Sounds to me as if you don't have the Clone tool set to 100%. Could this be right? That's the only way you're goind to get a washed out copy of the original!

Steve

Posted on 01/03/08 7:29:36 PM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
I'm having the same trouble. Each cloned guard is on top of the previous one and includes the white border from the background layer. I'm not new to Photoshop, but am new to this tool (clone source). If I make a new layer each time and then reverse the order of the layers after cloning, then the guards are behind one another, the only problem being the white boarder for the left edge of the "last" guard.



Posted on 01/03/08 9:14:26 PM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
kmorgan wrote:
I'm having the same trouble. Each cloned guard is on top of the previous one and includes the white border from the background layer. I'm not new to Photoshop, but am new to this tool (clone source). If I make a new layer each time and then reverse the order of the layers after cloning, then the guards are behind one another, the only problem being the white boarder for the left edge of the "last" guard.








Posted on 01/03/08 9:39:20 PM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
I am having the same problem, as well. Mine looks worse than the one posted here with a harsher delineation of the white edge

Posted on 01/03/08 10:22:33 PM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
I remember having similar problems, but did solve it. From memory, the new copies need to be below the original, not above.

Posted on 01/03/08 11:34:00 PM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
vibeke wrote:
I remember having similar problems, but did solve it. From memory, the new copies need to be below the original, not above.


However, the instructions in the book specifically state that new layers are not needed. All are on the same layer. So what am I missing?

Thanks for the reply.

Kevin

Posted on 02/03/08 03:44:40 AM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
The book states:
All these examples depend on a new layer, behind the target layer. This is essential to make the techniques work.
Be sure also that have the Clone tool set to Sample All Layers.
It does work. You have an empty layer below the one with the guard. the cloned image is done on the empty layer.
If I'm cloning, I often place an empty layer above the one I'm cloning from, and do the cloning onto that layer, so much easier, to correct mistakes that way.

Posted on 02/03/08 3:04:19 PM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
vibeke wrote:
The book states:
All these examples depend on a new layer, behind the target layer. This is essential to make the techniques work.
Be sure also that have the Clone tool set to Sample All Layers.
It does work. You have an empty layer below the one with the guard. the cloned image is done on the empty layer.
If I'm cloning, I often place an empty layer above the one I'm cloning from, and do the cloning onto that layer, so much easier, to correct mistakes that way.


Ok, I see now. Thank for all the replies.

Kevin



Posted on 03/03/08 3:21:59 PM
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Re: Clone Source Palette
vibeke wrote:
The book states:
All these examples depend on a new layer, behind the target layer. This is essential to make the techniques work.
Be sure also that have the Clone tool set to Sample All Layers.
It does work. You have an empty layer below the one with the guard. the cloned image is done on the empty layer.
If I'm cloning, I often place an empty layer above the one I'm cloning from, and do the cloning onto that layer, so much easier, to correct mistakes that way.


Thank you for solving the problem, and, if I may push the envelope a bit, what does cloning from the layer above do as opposed from the lower one?
Thank you....pixelens

Posted on 03/03/08 5:26:08 PM
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pixelens wrote:
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Thank you for solving the problem, and, if I may push the envelope a bit, what does cloning from the layer above do as opposed from the lower one?
Thank you....pixelens


When cloning onto a layer below your source, your new image is placed below the original one. and in the case of the security officer, who is on a transparent background, the new guard(s) appear behind him, rather than infront.
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