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Posted on 13/03/08 8:50:18 PM |
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pixelens
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Load up the Pen Path
Chapter 4, page 82, part 2 "just load up the Pen path." How is this done? |
Posted on 13/03/08 9:15:47 PM |
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David Asch
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Go to the Layer palette and click the Paths tab. You'll see the two paths: colour outline and union jack 1. Select the Colour Outline and either: press Ctrl/Cmd+Enter; Ctrl/Cmd+Click the path thumbnail or click the 3rd icon from the left at the bottom of the palette to load the selection. _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 13/03/08 10:06:06 PM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Many thanks, David. Of course I had to spend another half an hour figuring out where the Paths tab was since I had never used one. I appreciate the help! |
Posted on 14/03/08 01:12:47 AM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
I really thought I was an intermediate user of Photoshop. What is a red channel so that I can make a selection of the roof of the Mini? Good grief, I feel out of it. |
Posted on 14/03/08 02:04:10 AM |
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cy98
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
In the curves window the second line down has "channel"with RGB listed. This is a drop down box where you can choose the other color channels. |
Posted on 14/03/08 03:07:40 AM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Thanks again to David and cy98 for responses. I am adamant! I refuse to give up but after completing step 5, I delete the selection for the car and create a new path/selection for the roof after selecting the red channel in curves. I create a new layer and when using the desaturate I get a message: Could not complete the Desaturate command because of a program error. I have tried variations on this theme without any success. |
Posted on 14/03/08 03:48:11 AM |
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cy98
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Does that mean it crashes every time? I like to know what the shortcuts really are so I use Image>Adjustment>Desaturate. Does this work for you? |
Posted on 14/03/08 06:49:56 AM |
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Nick Curtain
Model Master Posts: 1768 Reply  |
Re: Load up the Pen Path
Hi all I am interested in reading your comments about PS crashing. I used CS for about three years without any issues, but CS3 crashes like a barn door in a hurricane. For example, I tried to apply a motion blur to a brush pattern on an empty layer and it was having none of it. Also, when transferring images from the Canon File Viewer, which I use sometimes to review raws, it just gave up, whereas CS was good as gold. Having used only CS until very recently, I only have the second edition book, but do recall the pen path for the car being in the wrong place?. I ended up drawing my own. Nick |
Posted on 14/03/08 3:02:24 PM |
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cy98
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
While no expert, I believe as "improvements" are made in software programs it just takes more horsepower to run them. At some point a bigger faster machine is needed, with separate internal drives for program and scratch (cache) disks. Also, going from an older 150K jpeg file to a newer 10Meg RAW file is a big jump in resource needs. Be careful of moving from one task to another too quickly as the program will get so many instructions it just says "I quit". |
Posted on 14/03/08 5:28:54 PM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Photoshop is not crashing on me, it just will not allow me to Desaturate after selecting the red layer via Curves and selecting the roof of the car. As long as I click OK most other options in Photoshop work. I thought perhaps I was incorrectly following instructions. Guess I'll go on to the next tutorial instead. I just dislike giving up. 78 years old, maried 54 years, gone through two by-pass procedures, one small stroke and this book by Cplin is my brain food. Not a quitter! |
Posted on 14/03/08 5:40:33 PM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
This is very odd. I can see no reason why Photoshop should not allow you to desaturate - unless you're in QuickMask mode, or working on a single channel. Can you send a screen grab of your entire screen, and we'll try to figure out what's going on? After 54 years of marriage and two bypasses, we can't let something like Photoshop stop you! |
Posted on 14/03/08 7:26:50 PM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply  |
Re: Load up the Pen Path
Hello, I noticed you say you are selecting the red layer via Curves. What you actually need to do is select the first layer you created, which is the car body that you made red via hue/saturation. This is the layer that I believe Steve meant when he said "the roof is selected from the red layer" Hope this helps |
Posted on 14/03/08 9:52:50 PM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Thank you Deborah. That worked out fine. I kept making a new layer not knowing the Car and the red layer were the same for the selection to desaturate. |
Posted on 14/03/08 10:08:48 PM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
I feel as if I am pushing the envelope and beg your patience and thanks to Deborah Morley I have been able to desaturate the roof. I do understand English and have duplicated the layer and brightened it. Returning to the layer titled Car (assuming that IS the original desaturated roof) and made the Union Jack into a path but of course in the Car layer, it is as white as the duplicate unless I click on the eye of the duplicate layer. "This is made into another new layer and moved on top of the white layer" How? Am I not doing something that all Photoshoppers know to do. For my next stress test I may suggest doing this Major color changes from the start again. (Just kidding) I'm finished for today but still love the book! |
Posted on 15/03/08 5:43:40 PM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply |
Re: Load up the Pen Path
Hello, don't worry about it we are all learning. Once you have selected the union jack path and making sure you on the desaturated roof layer, make it a selection CMD + backspace then press CMD + J to make it into a new layer. Then put the cursor on that layer while in the layers palette and move it to the top of the pile. Then when you use hue etc you will see the change. The layer order makes all the difference as to what you can and can't see!! Hope it helps |
Posted on 15/03/08 7:44:27 PM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Thank you, however my problem is more basic. The roof has been selected and desaturated. I have made a duplicate and brightened it to near white. When I return to the original desturated roof (aka Car layer), it too is near white. I have tried all sort of variations but other than clicking the eye in the duplicate I have not been able to return to a desaturated roof in order to use the Union Jack outline and proceed. |
Posted on 15/03/08 8:32:44 PM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply |
Re: Load up the Pen Path
Did you make a new layer of the roof before desaturating it? If you can grab a screenshot of it all it might be worth posting. Shift Command and 4 does it for Apple ( just move the cursor until you get the picture you want) |
Posted on 15/03/08 10:53:19 PM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Here's my screen shot.  |
Posted on 16/03/08 10:22:29 AM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply |
Re: Load up the Pen Path
Hello, because the new bright roof is at the top of the layer order, the ONLY way you would be able to see the grey roof is if you hide the bright roof. If you want you can move the grey roof to the top of the layer order by clicking on it in the layers palette and physically moving it to the top. You can move all the layers around as much as you want (although you get some strange results). By default when you make a new layer Photoshop puts it on top of the active layer, you can then move them around as you want. Please forgive me if I am teaching my grandmother to suck eggs! |
Posted on 16/03/08 6:24:32 PM |
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pixelens
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Re: Load up the Pen Path
Thank you for the laugh. I never knew grandmothers or anyone for that matter sucked eggs. Your advice was sound. I've used Photoshop since version 3.0 but only for photograph enhancement with minimal use of layers. I was finally able to use the Union Jack path and create the blue section using Hue/Saturation but ended up cheating by using the Red Background since I could not figure out how to move the layers to use the car's red roof. Copy attached and thank you for your help.  |
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