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Posted on 24/07/08 10:25:07 AM
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Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
REFERENCE: How To Cheat In Photoshop CS3

Approximately one year ago, I addressed to the forum an inquiry concerning a matter with the captioned tutorial. Specifically, the issue of effectively copying/pasting the graffiti image onto the house image to establish its' proper perspective at the side of the house. For brevity; I have established both the house (with perspective lines drawn in the Vanishing Point filter), and the empty layer, precisely according to Steve's tutorial. Now, I am ready to copy/paste the grafitti to the house. In attempting to do so, I go to Steve's file, select the grafitti image in his folder, then right click (Windows XP) and select "copy". Returning to the house image, in Photoshop (CS3), I attempt to paste the image by the shortcut: "Ctrl V" - for pasting in Photoshop. Perpetually, nothing happens. Yet, I can paste (via Ctrl V) anywhere else in Windows - such as My Pictures.

At the time we last addressed this same issue, in this section of the forum, my inquiry concerned how to paste an image into Photoshop since there is no method provided by Adobe to do such. Steve simply responded that I should use "Ctrl V" - the Windows XP shortcut to paste - to do so. After doing this, everything went along just fine. I did make the "Ctrl V" note in Steve's book specifically for this particular tutorial. Additonally, I made some other quick notes which I have misplaced. I haven't had a need to use the vanishing point tool in quite some time so, upon my return to it, I was quite surprised to find the "Copy", then Ctrl V (paste), elicited nothing! I would deeply appreciate any thoughts in resolution as to why the pasting approach isn't working as I have a client waiting on my project fairly soon.

Thanks heaps!!

Hank

Posted on 24/07/08 1:23:19 PM
dave.cox
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Re: Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
Hi Hank,

I'm not sure that I understand your problem, but perhaps this will help.

You can indeed paste an image in Photoshop using Ctrl V. However, if you attempt to use Ctrl V to paste while the clipboard is empty, nothing will happen. Also the menu selection for paste will be grayed out. You can only select paste when you have something stored on the clipboard. Is it possible that you didn't have a selection when you attempted to copy with Ctrl C? This could cause Ctrl V to be unavailable.

Dave

Posted on 24/07/08 2:16:42 PM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
Hank,

You're confusing two processes in Windows that have the same name.

If you select a file and Copy, then all you're copying is the item's name and location. You can use Paste to make a duplicate of the file somewhere else.

In this case, we need to get the image data into Photoshop, which is not the same thing. You need to open the file in Photoshop and then Select All, followed by Copy, to place the image on the clipboard. You'll then be able to Paste where you want it (within Photoshop).

Posted on 24/07/08 2:29:38 PM
Pierre
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Re: Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
Steve, you took the words right out of my keyboard.

Good luck Hank!

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Posted on 24/07/08 9:46:18 PM
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Re: Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
Thanks for the quick get-back, all, as well as your assistance.

There still remains a persistent "X" in the operating equation, however:

STEPS TAKEN:

1. House opened into Photoshop as the background layer. (Note: VP grids are established for the house.)

2. Empty layer (layer 1) created.

3. The graffiti is opened into Photoshop.

4. Select>All (Ctrl A) is implemented. (Border appears around the graffiti)

4. Copy (Ctrl C) is implemented.

5. Clicking on the house (background layer), Paste (Ctrl V) is implemented.

RESULT: The graffiti appears (large - not in the top left corner and smaller) as layer 3 (above the empty layer). I tried this several times with the same result each time. (Effectively, the graffiti is "pasted" the same as if I had opened the graffiti image, then dragged it to the Photoshop image.) When I transform the graffiti image to a smaller one, then drag it to the brick side of the house, no perspective transformation occurs.

Having worked through all of this with you before (and it WORKED!) it was all very simple, actually. Still, there seems to be some small detail that I seem to be missing. I appreciate your time and patience with me in getting me through this basically easy effect and look forward to hearing back from you once more, as your time allows.

Hank



Posted on 24/07/08 11:52:48 PM
dave.cox
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Re: Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
Hi Hank,

I think I see your problem. When you paste the graffiti into the image, are you still in the Vanishing point filter? (If you are, you can't select layers).

Be sure to paste the graffiti into the the image while you are still in the vanishing point filter. It will come in large, in the upper left corner, and flat. When you drag it into the grid, it will re-orient itself to the grid.

Dave.

Posted on 25/07/08 09:07:26 AM
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Re: Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
Hi Dave,

Hope things are well with you in Texas - at least I think I recall you live in Texas. (We're sweltering here in Birmingham, Alabama!! 103 degrees here yesterday in the all too sunny south. That hurricane didn't help things for us one bit - heat-wise! It just helped raise the humidity!! Do I now live in a desert? Overall, we have nice rains (for a change) here though.

Anyway, no, I'm not still in the VP filter when I paste, I'm in the main Photoshop window. The picture of the house is the only image on the screen now. I've previously copied (Ctrl C) from the graffiti image - which I brought aboard in its' separate window, as usual. (The graffiti image window formerly appeared on TOP of the main image of the house - again, as usual. THEN, I copied - via Ctrl V - after I did the Select>All bit onto the main window with the house.) The graffiti image appeared just fine! (BINGO!!) However, it was MUCH larger (filled the entire house layer) than it was when I did it last year, and not nearly as large as is depicted in Steve's book. (In essence, I got the same effect as if I had merely opened the graffiti into a seperate window - then dragged/dropped it onto the house image!!??) This shouldn't be! Finally, when I reduce it - which I shouldn't have to, it doesn't conform to the grid structure which I set up in the VP filter. It remains unconformed to the VP grid structure I set up. (Tell me I'm NOT going to have to go throught the hassle of calling Adobe support on this one!)

Thas' it, basically, Dave. Lord knows, this is soooo infinitely simple of an effect to accomplish. I EASILY did it last year! I just get frustrated when things which SHOULD work DON'T because of some menial oversight, and I suspect this is all this is, actually. So, any further thoughts you (y'all) might have would be greatly appreciated. Incidently, if I still haven't made myself clear as to the specifics on this issue, you (y'all) just lemme know.

For now ........ I think I'll just go open another beer! (Yes, it's late mid-evening here, and I'm a REAL night owl! To bed, generally, around 4:30 a.m. - and we're BOTH on the same CDT. (Up about 12:30 p.m. Eat your heart out, kid. I'm retired!!)

Later,

Hank

Posted on 25/07/08 09:23:38 AM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
Read Dave's post again, Hank: you should be in the Vanishing Point filter when you paste.

Posted on 25/07/08 10:01:46 PM
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Re: Vanishing Point Filter 3 (revisited)
Thanks very much for all of the assistance (and patience) each of you have given me in this resolution. I have it all working perfectly now. As well, I have made new notes (which won't be lost this time) for easy reference in the future if it should be some while, again, before I have need for this filter.

My best to you all!!

Hank
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