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Posted on 24/05/10 9:48:43 PM |
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Eggbox
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First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Oh woe is me, for I took Steve's suggestion and purchased a Wacom tablet and Lo! he was right. He said to begin with I will hate it and then, in time, I'll love it. ... at the moment I'm deep in the hate stage. I appreciate I'm getting used to laying the pen to a specific spot as it is a 'hovering' positioning rather that a sliding positioning with a mouse but as soon as I touch the tablet it has clicked. This is particularly galling when trying to work with the pen tool in PS. If I make an error I try to locate the tablet pen and before I know it I've touched the pad (again) and the pen tool whizzes off to do something else. Argghhhhh! Bring back my beautiful, friendly little mouse.. I've had my winge.. I'll keep taking the tablet....I feel better now. Ted |
Posted on 25/05/10 07:24:02 AM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply  |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Hello Ted, For years I didn't have a tablet, and just used the internal mouse on my laptop. For some reason I always used my right hand,maybe because by default it is set up like that. It worked fine. Then I got a tablet and automatically used my left hand, as I am left-handed. Now I also have an external mouse, so use that with my right hand and the pen with my left! Persevere, I am now a lot more dextrous, in fact I was very surprised how much I could work with my right hand. Ramble over, have a good day. |
Posted on 25/05/10 08:10:39 AM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Stick with it, Ted. A couple of weeks and it'll suddenly make sense! |
Posted on 25/05/10 08:49:08 AM |
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Eggbox
Ovoid Opportunist Posts: 797 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Thank you Steve, I'm sure you are right. It must be a case of practice, practice, practice interspersed by frustration, frustr...etc... My three weeks at the Wimbledon Championships begin soon so I'll make that my 'making sense of it' target. Thanks too to Deborah and your encouragement. I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. Ted PS. Contrary to rumours I'm not working at Wimbledon as the oldest ball boy in history! |
Posted on 25/05/10 6:37:41 PM |
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Steve Mac
Grunge Genie Posts: 539 Reply  |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Ted, check the preferences. You can adjust how the pen behaves. Maybe you have it set too sensitive. Just a suggestion. |
Posted on 25/05/10 7:12:12 PM |
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Paul 2007 thru 2010
Lego Legend Posts: 361 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Have you moved completely over to the tablet Ted? I think tablets have their place, so do mice. Using the correct device at the right time makes a difference. |
Posted on 25/05/10 7:17:22 PM |
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GKB
Magical Montagist Posts: 4060 Reply  |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
I agree with Paul. I tend to use the mouse for much of the 'coarser' work and then switch to the tablet for fine detailed work. _________________ Why is there only one word for ‘Thesaurus’? |
Posted on 25/05/10 9:04:03 PM |
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Eggbox
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Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Thanks for your thoughts. No I haven't moved fully over to the tablet and I don't think I will. I agree with Paul and Gordon, both have their place. I feel reasonably comfortable with the pen and the tablet for the simple things but my real frustration is working with the PS Pen tool. Maybe Steve M has it. The sensitivity, if I can find the adjustment. It might just be familiarity but unlike the mouse which you slide into position then click and drag, you are hovering and positioning the pen a few mil above the surface without touching it. I haven't quite got the 'feel' of the height above the surface so I'm either touching before I'm ready or stabbing the tablet and missing the target! Then it is Ctrl Alt Z times 'x'. I'm interested in Gordon's comment about switching to the tablet for detailed work. Do you feel you can be more accurate with the pen on the tablet over the mouse? Ted |
Posted on 25/05/10 9:23:09 PM |
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Steve Mac
Grunge Genie Posts: 539 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Ted, I think you can adjust the height in which the pen will react to the tablet. (hovering distance) |
Posted on 25/05/10 9:41:31 PM |
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GKB
Magical Montagist Posts: 4060 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Hi Ted, Over the years I have just got so used to using the mouse for a lot of things and my arm doesn't have to fly all over the place but, if I am doing some detailed work on hair, or something really fine. Itt is very nice to be able to have the degree of control that you would have with, say, a pencil for doing something which would make the mouse feel like you are trying to draw with a large block of soap as someone once described it. I suppose the artistic analogy might be the difference between painting with oils using a pallette knife and watercolour with a very fine brush. I have yet to hear of anyone who has moved straight to a tablet without some degree of discomfort or confusion but, equally, I have yet to hear of anyone who doesn't master the tablet and grow to like it at least a little bit. When I work with the Pen tool, though, I much prefer to use the mouse as the pen tool can give me unwanted results. But I'm sure that someone will say that they prefer the opposite. One man's meat etc............ Keep trying with the pen and you will soon settle down to your own comfortable way of working. Gordon _________________ If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you ever tried. |
Posted on 26/05/10 09:47:46 AM |
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Eggbox
Ovoid Opportunist Posts: 797 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
I have a Wacom Bamboo Pen and Touch tablet, Steve M, and can't find any reference to adjusting the pen touch sensitivity. Maybe I'm seeing it but not reading it (if you see what I mean). I am most encouraged, Gordon, by your revelation that you use the mouse when working with the pen tool for it is the pen tool/tablet combination that I have the most frustration with. I'm confident I will use the tablet for a lot of the work but I felt I was lagging behind with working the pen tool. I wonder if Steve uses his Wacom tablet all of the time? Perhaps we will find out here! 
Ted |
Posted on 26/05/10 10:44:17 AM |
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steve hill
Brain Basher Posts: 228 Reply  |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
if you are using vista its in pen tablets start menu see screen shots  |
Posted on 26/05/10 10:47:17 AM |
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steve hill
Brain Basher Posts: 228 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
that brings up this box  |
Posted on 26/05/10 1:36:29 PM |
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Steve Mac
Grunge Genie Posts: 539 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Try playing with the Double Click Distance settings. I would also look under the Advanced tab and maybe the Details... tab under Pen Mode. As far as the combination of pen and mouse, I use a mouse for the pen tool as well. The click points are more accurate for me. I also use the mouse when I work with text. It's easier to let go of the mouse than to keep picking up the pen. Hope some of this helps Ted. |
Posted on 26/05/10 6:28:16 PM |
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Steve Caplin
Administrator Posts: 7072 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Ted, I use the tablet with the pen for all my Photoshop and other illustration work. But when I'm web browsing, or editing in InDesign, I prefer to use my fingers on the Bamboo's touch surface. Stick with it, Ted! |
Posted on 27/05/10 4:56:31 PM |
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Eggbox
Ovoid Opportunist Posts: 797 Reply |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
Thank you Steve H and Steve M. I found the Double click distance to be speed related to action. I also delved into the Advanced and Details boxes in the preferences but I can't see how to delay the 'action click' from the touch. I'm not sure you can. Once touched, you're done! I believe Steve C has the answer just to stick with it which I shall do. It is interesting, though, to hear others feel the mouse is more accurate while Steve C uses the tablet both in pen and touch modes for all his Photoshop and other work. Thanks everyone for your thoughts and encouragement. Ted (What's that little mouse? No .. I shan't throw you away.) |
Posted on 27/05/10 5:32:48 PM |
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katew
Virtual Virtuoso Posts: 681 Reply  |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
I don't use a mouse at all - I use my tablet for everything. |
Posted on 27/05/10 8:46:02 PM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply  |
Re: First bit of Steve's comment is correct....
I'm another using mouse with pen and paths, but using the pen for painting and drawing (on masks and layers etc) is so liberating. And much more control on parameter in PS (e.g tilt, pressure, flow etc, maybe too many  ).
I should probably have ago with tablet again for paths/pen. I'd probably love that too now. Time investment. At first had same frustration like Ted.... and also I kept pressing "double-click" rocker as well. Enough. Great to hear all your thoughts and experiences. I can not add much more, just my experience, but I will try again when have time (inspired) ..... vs can wizz with the mouse on paths/pen without too much, ctl-Z/cmd-Z and history |