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Posted on 01/01/05 08:29:40 AM |
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eaglepi
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Need some help
I have been trying to use this image to make stacks and stacks of magazines but I can't seem to get the right perspective and skew so when I stack one on top of the other to make a higher stack it doesn't look right. Can someone help me out, maybe a few pointers some examples. anything and everything will be much appreciated  |
Posted on 01/01/05 09:00:29 AM |
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trinityofone
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Re: Need some help
Two ways to approach this are: Split the image, so you have a layer with the spines and a layer with the pages. That way, you can use Free Transform to match the perspective individually. The second method would be to create the magazines yourself (using the tequniques in Steve's book), which would give you total control of size and position. _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 01/01/05 09:08:02 AM |
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eaglepi
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Re: Need some help
Thanks David, I should have thought of that, I would use the example of the cards right? |
Posted on 01/01/05 09:11:42 AM |
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trinityofone
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Exactly, then you can scan or photograph a real cover for the top of the stack - depending on the distance these will be viewed at, you could get away with making the spines yourself. _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 01/01/05 09:14:10 AM |
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eaglepi
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Re: Need some help
Thanks again, I'll post when I get my finished image so you can let me know how it looks and if I need to do anything different, I apprecite your help |
Posted on 01/01/05 11:56:39 AM |
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eaglepi
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Re: Need some help
   Some 4 hours later I'm pulling my hair out, I can seem to distort this cover so that it lays on it''s side without making all the image and text looking all blurry....
any suggestions??????  |
Posted on 01/01/05 12:06:07 PM |
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trinityofone
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It really depends on the angle and size. If that's the full sized image, distortion will cause it to become blurred. It's always best to work on big images and scale them down, as you have more detail to work with initially. _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 01/01/05 3:30:47 PM |
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maiden
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Re: Need some help
Is this the type of thing you're after? _________________ mad as a badger and twice as furry |
Posted on 01/01/05 5:40:39 PM |
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eaglepi
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Re: Need some help
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but stacked about 75 -100 tall and the edges ahve to be different colors to represent different issues. Nut you have it perfect. can you do anything with my first image???? |
Posted on 01/01/05 6:53:22 PM |
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eaglepi
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Re: Need some help
I have tried and as you can see I can't seem to get it to look real.... but from what I did do I think you can see what I want and hopefully offer me more suggerstions... I'm learning and I do appreciate all your help  |
Posted on 01/01/05 7:25:52 PM |
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trinityofone
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This is a very quick demonstration using the seperation method. I created a layer by selecting the spines, then another with the pages. The two layers were then positioned and distorted with Free Transform. The problem with this method is that the bottom of the original stack is flat and the top is curved.  _________________ A happy-go-lucky chap, always dressed in black |
Posted on 01/01/05 8:04:55 PM |
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Pooch
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Here is my feeble attempt  _________________ I was here when things were bad. We finished second one year! Bob Paisley, RIP. |
Posted on 01/01/05 8:09:50 PM |
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maiden
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Here's my revised version based upon the method David mentioned plus some 3D transform so that you can see the top magazine cover by making the top magazine flat and with your preferred top image then it all comes into place (I hope) _________________ mad as a badger and twice as furry |
Posted on 02/01/05 02:09:02 AM |
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eaglepi
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Thank you all very much for your help. I will post my final image when I am finish with it, or when I get stuck....I'd bet on the latter first...........lol |
Posted on 04/01/05 3:01:39 PM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: Need some help
Wow, what an interesting thread this has turned out to be. Some great techniques there - it's fascinating to come to this in the new year and see the progression through the different methods. Eaglepi, part of the problem is distorting the cover enough to sit at the top of the stack. It's a very severe distortion, and that will tend to pixellate the image. A good technique would be to distort the cover using Free Transform but then, before clicking in the Free Transform box or hitting the Enter key, holding SHIFT and grabbing one of the handles to stretch the cover to about double or triple its intended size. If you then go ahead and reduce this distorted version to the right size, you should find you get much crisper results. |