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Posted on 29/05/13 5:22:05 PM
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best technique to use?
Hello again,

What would be the best technique to use to remove the black virtical line in the attached pic?

It is a cavble that was in shot when the pic was taken

As always, thanks for any help and advice,

Graham



Posted on 29/05/13 8:01:58 PM
Deborah Morley
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Re: best technique to use?
Hi, I presume the cable in the main picture isn't too large; you could try Content aware Fill, but that won't necessarily match the perspective lines up too well. If you do use Content Aware Fill make a copy of your original layer and then work on that, then if things don't match up in some places you could make a Layer Mask and mask out the bits that don't work.
You could try the Clone tool, again on a new layer; it makes it easier if you rotate the canvas so the perspective lines are approximately horizontal.
Or you could make selections of each lines of turf, copy to a new layer and then transform and move to cover the cable.
Not really any easy way to do this because of the perspective.
Now, somebody shoot me down in flames!

Posted on 29/05/13 8:09:29 PM
Jota120
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Re: best technique to use?
Well here is my result:

Its CS5. Content aware-fill. Actually I was amazed at the first results! Quick! I selected the wire and made fill content-aware!. A few small artefacts left on edges, but between clone and healing brush made a good quick result I think to remove them. If it was my image I would refine some more, probably with e.g. clone to remove some artefacts. I have no idea where those lines on the pitch should be going, but easy to fix if have e.g. overlaying layer with lines drawn in where missing.

I posted this just about same time as Deborah. I think we are on same track. I was amazed Content aware fill seemed to do a good job with perspective. If you don't have content aware fill, Deborah's other suggested solution may help, but agree will be difficulties with perspective using clone.



Posted on 29/05/13 8:24:06 PM
Jota120
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Re: best technique to use?
Deborah,

That was going to be my very similar approach. Never fails. Then I thought lets see what our new friend CS5 can do! It went for it! Some artefacts left, but it did most of the work and very easy to clear them.

Good advice from you and hopefully me too. I wonder if it will be followed through?


Posted on 30/05/13 10:38:46 PM
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Re: best technique to use?
Thanks for the help guys.

I will have a go tomorrow and see how I get on.

The trouble is, and I should have probably posted the whole pic, that the line is not just on the grass. I will try to upload the pic somewhere else so you can see it (tried here but was way too big a file).

Thanks again for the help and advice,

Graham

Posted on 31/05/13 07:39:55 AM
Steve Caplin
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Re: best technique to use?
Content-aware fill is certainly a good starting point, and it will get you a lot of the way there - even on a more complex background. Then it will just require a little retouching to follow elements such as the white pitch markings through.

If you can post a low res version of the whole image, it would be interesting to see how well this works.

Posted on 31/05/13 10:30:21 AM
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Steve, yes I was thinking smaller version would help. Here it is. I've added some missing pitch lines, but not sure what game this is for now Here is updated version, maybe still a bit large, but I think a lot of artefacts not obvious now. BTW outside the content aware fill selection the original already had quite a few Jpeg artefacts. (?). Yes, Content aware fill can do a very good job to start with, just need to tinker ("One who enjoys experimenting with and repairing machine parts" ) a little afterwards in most cases to remove some artefacts. May also need to tune the selected area. Your HTCIPS book of course gives more details and hints.



Posted on 01/06/13 08:33:37 AM
GKB
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Re: best technique to use?
Jota120 wrote:

I'm still not sure why take a photo of a cable and not much else.


Trevor,
If you re-read both of Graham's posts you will see that the image is only a part of a larger image.



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Posted on 01/06/13 09:02:56 AM
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Re: best technique to use?
Thanks for clarification Gordon. I did miss read the second post. I'll remove my last comment now clarified.

Good luck Graham. Sorry for any confusion. It will be interesting to see how you get on. Hope we helped some what.
Trevor


Posted on 01/06/13 10:06:09 AM
GKB
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Re: best technique to use?
fugleys dad wrote:
Thanks for the help guys.

I will have a go tomorrow and see how I get on.

The trouble is, and I should have probably posted the whole pic, that the line is not just on the grass. I will try to upload the pic somewhere else so you can see it (tried here but was way too big a file).

Thanks again for the help and advice,

Graham


Hi Graham,
Go to Image>Image Size and reduce the image to around 850 pixels on its longest side then File>Save for Web and adjust the quality slider so that the file size is less than 100kb you will be able to upload the complete image. It will be interesting to see what else that wire is sitting over. Hope we can help.
Gordon

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Posted on 04/06/13 5:01:05 PM
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sorry fpr the delay but I have had to do some work for a change

The pic was taken at the Millenium Stadium while I was working on the Olympics. I did the CATV design for the football matches that were being held there and the pic was taken from the control room where we installed the kit.

Being a proud Welshman it was a great job for me as I got to walk the whole place, see behind the scenes in the stadium so I was a very happy boy . All my other work was on the Olympic park at the Velodrome, basketball arena, BMX track and the handball arena (now called Copperbox) - that was the best job I have had or will have (very hard work to get everything designed but very enjopyable)

It would be good to be able to get rid of that cable (I am no David Bailey as you can tell).

I have uploaded the whole image so hopefully it will come out ok.

Thanks for the help and advice,

Graham






Posted on 04/06/13 10:12:15 PM
Steve Caplin
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Graham,

I selected the cable with the Magic Wand tool (and tweaked the selection slightly with the Lasso tool) and then expanded the selection by 2 pixels before filling with Content Aware Fill.

As you can see, the results are really pretty good. Not perfect by any means, but it's a real start - and I think it would now be a relatively easy matter to patch the white lines and the back of the stadium with the Clone tool (on a new layer, of course, with the tool set to Sample All Layers).

Hope this helps





Posted on 05/06/13 5:20:37 PM
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blimey - I had to have a close look to see where the cable actually was.

Thanks for the help - I will have a go myself later and see if I get even close to the results you have
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