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Posted on 21/12/13 2:11:05 PM |
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RetroSi
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Faded B & W
Hello, I have this faded & Sun bleached image that has been tasked to me for restoration. Any pointers on which method might produce the best result. I'm not necessarily after the quickest solution as I have the time to spend getting it correct. I have PS CS5 extended. Cheers, Retro Si...  |
Posted on 21/12/13 3:26:45 PM |
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GKB
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Re: Faded B & W
Hi Simon Open the image and go Layers>Adjustment Layer>Black and White. A dialogue box will open with adjustments for various colours. Moving the cursor over the image will turn it into an eye-dropper. When it is over the grotty bit on the lady's dress click and it will show you that there is yellow here. Now drag the yellow slider all the way to the left. There is still a little bit of staining which is actually removable by doing the same to the red slider. You can tweak some of the other sliders to lighten parts of the image if you wish. Experiment with this until you get what you want. At this resolution it's a bit difficult to see exactly what is happening to the photograph but I hope that this points you in a good direction. Gordon 
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Posted on 21/12/13 7:18:02 PM |
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puffin31939
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Re: Faded B & W
Wow! Gordon that is impressive. Black and White is an adjustment layer I have never really used. Always something new to learn! _________________ Man cannot change the direction of the wind but he can adjust the sails |
Posted on 21/12/13 10:20:04 PM |
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GKB
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Re: Faded B & W
Thanks Angela but, as I said, I'm not sure how it will work out with a higher resolution image. There are still some issues that I can make out with the image as posted. Simon - do let us know if this resolves your problem or send me a high res scan at gkbain@aol.com if it doesn't work. _________________ If at first you don't succeed then skydiving is not for you. |
Posted on 21/12/13 11:16:20 PM |
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RetroSi
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Re: Faded B & W
Thank you Gordon, I did hit the subscribe button to this thread fort obvious reasons but it seems not to have worked! Meaning I have only just logged on to see the reply. I posted the low res image as per the request for under 100k. I shall try your suggestion thank you as it is not something I have tried but have read in the HTCPS book only yesterday this method so it's very apt that you suggest this. I will let you know how I get on. If you still would want a copy of the hi res file anyway let me know and at what res? And I will send it to the email you posted. Cheers Simon... |
Posted on 22/12/13 06:55:31 AM |
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Nick Curtain
Model Master Posts: 1768 Reply  |
Re: Faded B & W
Gordon - good call on the B&W adj layer. I have also processed Jpegs in the RAW converter, where there is a luminance option too. Simon - Once tidied up, the image can be hand tinted. This is a very quick effort using different layers set to colour blend mode at about 20% opacity. If you clip a Hue and Saturation adjustment layer to each of the colour layers, you can change the hue of each component. I used blue originally for the suit, but you can then make it virtually any colour you like. Nick  |
Posted on 22/12/13 5:30:39 PM |
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RetroSi
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Re: Faded B & W
Thank you Nick for your suggestion as I have a second image of the same family this is of the mother with her Sons and as can be seen the outer edge has a dull tone due to being hidden behind the frames edge which gives me some clue to its original colours etc. The Suits are supposed to be silver and the dress is a light green with beige piping. I shall give the process a go in the raw converter. I have the original photos but not the negs and so can scan at what ever dpi I need but feel no need to go higher than 600 dpi. Unless you know there is an advantage in doing so please let me know as my scanner is pretty good Epson perfection 3200 and still gives good scans of both pos & neg images. Cheers for the advice I haven't managed to get to them yet as i have my Fiancée with me at the moment and don't want to upset her sitting at the screen. Cheers Simon...  |
Posted on 22/12/13 6:02:01 PM |
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Nick Curtain
Model Master Posts: 1768 Reply |
Re: Faded B & W
Hi Simon A scan at 600 ppi should be more than adequate. It's interesting what you say about the colour. The suits do look grey in the part obscured by the frame, yet the dress doesn't look green. I used the grey eyedropper on the 'exposed' suits, but this threw the colour way out - ususlly pretty successful on a neutral grey. It all depends on how accurate the colour was in the first place. On this one I would go with mono. Regarding the border, I tried making a selection and the inverting it, then applying a levels adjustment layer. I could achieve a gamma match in places, but not overall, so if you wanted to keep this section it may necessitate several adjustments in chunks and then use the clone tool to blend. Personally, I would set up the crop tool to say 6x6 inches at 300ppi and then rotate the crop to lose the border. Nick |
Posted on 22/12/13 9:58:12 PM |
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RetroSi
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Re: Faded B & W
Thank you again Nick, I sneaked back on here whilst the Fiancée was asleep on the couch  to see if any replies were made.
Hopefully tomorrow I can start to have a go myself, Cheers Simon... Oh and the info about the colour of the suits and dress etc came from the lady in the picture herself. |
Posted on 29/12/13 10:04:31 AM |
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RetroSi
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Re: Faded B & W
Happy New Year everyone, (in a few days) I'm off to Hakefield Pontins for a 3 day all in break with Tina for less than £40 each night, not bad for all in plus the entertainment. Might not be every ones choice but it'll be some cheesy fun. Anyhoo I have finished these restorations, a big thank you for the suggestions on methods. Simon. Here's the B&W image  |
Posted on 29/12/13 10:05:28 AM |
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RetroSi
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Re: Faded B & W
And here is the Colour image which took a long time & a lot of faffing about...  |
Posted on 29/12/13 11:00:21 AM |
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Nick Curtain
Model Master Posts: 1768 Reply |
Re: Faded B & W
Overall a great job with the colour of the suits and the dress. Did you go to mono first? My only crit would be that the sleeve far left could do with some building an softening at the edge. Nick |
Posted on 29/12/13 3:23:24 PM |
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GKB
Magical Montagist Posts: 3973 Reply |
Re: Faded B & W
Hi Simon, Just thought I would say that the shadow, tie and shirt of the chap on the left has a fairly distinct green cast. You might want to copy this to a new layer and adjust the white point to give a more neutral white. Gordon _________________ If at first you don't succeed then skydiving is not for you. |
Posted on 30/12/13 08:35:34 AM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3010 Reply  |
Re: Faded B & W
Yes, Gorden, that is impressive. It's solved a problem I have often come up against. Thankyou. |
Posted on 30/12/13 8:56:53 PM |
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GKB
Magical Montagist Posts: 3973 Reply |
Re: Faded B & W
Just glad to be able to point you in a direction that works for you.  _________________ You're never too old to learn something stupid. |
Posted on 31/12/13 4:26:55 PM |
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RetroSi
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Re: Faded B & W
Hello Nick, yes I agree the sleev edge is to sharp, I didn't go mono and was getting fed up by this stage. Hello Gordon, not sure why the green tinge as it wasn't showing ion my monitor and didn,t print that way o the Canon IPF ImageProGaf printer I have access to at work. the lady in question was happy with the final image and one of my fellow printer finishers at work who is always hyper critical didn't say anything! Perhaps the saving for web caused an issue? So far the IPS monitor I have has proved faithful to the profile of the printer I use. And we all know each monitor and printer have to match to get the best result. Perhaps with your profile it would print green thanks for the heads up as I shall keep an eye on it and do another profile update to make sure/check it's still within the 98% it was last time I did the check. The firm I work for as a consultant is thinking of getting two of the new Canon IPF ImageProGraf 9400. If they are going to sooner than later it may save me doing the profile jmatch twice. We also use the HP Scitex 5400 printers but I haven't personally had reason to use them yet other than the firms work. Before I click off thank you for all your very helpful advice, hopefully I can return the favour one day. Please excuse any typos as I am typing on a 7 inch net book in the dark which is set to Welsh as a spell checker!!! And I'm using it via BSkyB The Cloud which keeps saying bad certificate please check plus the keypad is too small. Lastly as it is New Years Eve at 4:25 pm a very Happy New Year to everyone.... All the Best for the New Year and lets hope we are all lucky, cheers, Simon.... |