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Posted on 20/08/09 12:30:57 PM
Deborah Morley
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
Yes, I agree - this was difficult. The nose was the worst.



Posted on 20/08/09 8:37:57 PM
Sophie
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
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Couldn't get the lips in the middle correctly so had to .....cheat.



Posted on 20/08/09 9:42:51 PM
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
Very busy week. Just quick idea, quick work.



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Posted on 21/08/09 00:27:33 AM
Jota120
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
Some impressive images guys! A difficult one, but I think there will be and was some good feedback.

Disappointed I could not contribute to HTCP last 3 weeks. Dali is one of my heros, wish I'd had a chance to contribute too on this and others. Only just back from travel with no internet/PS access/time.







Posted on 21/08/09 08:44:04 AM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
This was an extremely difficult Challenge, as those of you who attempted it found - so many of you chose a humorous approach to the original photograph instead.

First joke of the week was from Ben Mills, whose addition of three cushions to Dali’s original gives it a great gap-toothed smile. The sunglasses and elongated nose are a nice touch!

Daliness abounds in GKB’s ingenious solution - the dripping version of the original scene is excellent, with a real thickness and viscosity to the work. The only problem here is the perspective of the wood floor: we’re looking at the room from an angle, as shown by the paintings on the wall, so we should see the floor from this angle as well.

A clever link to last week’s image from mguyer, and a well conceived cutout of the nose and lips to add to the 3D effect. It very nearly works: but the line of the nose is still pointing straight towards us, rather than off at an angle.

I was about to heap praise on Nick Curtain’s entry, when I noticed the railing in the bottom left corner. There is, in fact, a railing just there - but there’s no way you could have known about it without using a photograph taken from this angle. Cheating, Nick?

Terrific perspective from gaoxiguo, with the lips and nose distorted to fit the new view: I like the way the nose has been rebuilt as the two are offset. Watch the angle of the floor, though: it should not come straight towards us.

Fantastic work from LonnieK: I had to check to make sure this wasn’t an angled photograph of the real scene. Superb distortion on the nose and lips, and the floor reflections add a great sense of realism. This must have been a huge amount of work - well worth the effort!

An extreme side view from brewell, with a carefully shaped nose and mouth. But is everything in the right place? Follow the perspective floor lines back from the mouth, and you’ll see it’s off centre on the nose. A very well executed entry otherwise.

Subtle reshaping from vibeke, with the nose well rebuilt where the mouth has been moved out of the way. Again, as with brewell’s entry, follow the perspective lines back from the mouth to the nose, and you’ll see it’s way off centre. The solution: make the whole scene much deeper, so the mouth is further forward.

Off topic, perhaps, but a clever entry from tooquilos, whose animation places Mae West on the sofa - appropriate, since the room is based on Mae West in the first place. Several cool techniques here, and a fab soundtrack!

A smokin’ entry from michael sinclair - absolutely nothing to do with this week’s Challenge, but there we go. I like the idea, but cigarettes don’t fade away like that! You need to open the lips to make space for it!

Dazzling work from james, with Marilyn Monroe standing in for Mae West. Look at all the detail here: the eyes in the nostrils (complete with blink), the ground shadows, the dropping paintings, the tongue pressing out of the open mouth. A really funny piece of work, built on a solid angled view of the original scene. Wonderful, James!

A smoking scene again from horonggo - now that’s the way to open the lips! And I like the smoke coming from the nostrils, too. Not so sure about the metal frame, though.

A couple of neat Dali masks from Sophie - a neat idea! The added people in the background and the glass of wine accentuate the private view concept, but is the lighting too harsh on the masks? The figures don’t show anything like this amount of contrast. A superb second entry, with the elements neatly slotted into an incredibly difficult angle of view. It’s not exactly right, but given the trickiness of the angle this is a valiant attempt!

An amazing effort from Deborah Morley, with beautifully reshaped nose and mouth: a perfect rendering of the scene, which must have taken a lot of time and patience. Look at the shape of that nose: it’s exactly right, with no sense of distortion. And the added Mae provides a nice focus, too. Fantastic.

Extra surrealism from Emil, showing an exploded scene with Salvador himself peering through the room. And it sidesteps the perspective issue neatly!

Very good attempts at an almost impossible problem. So, for those of you who want to see what you were aiming at, here’s the original scene as photographed from an angle...



Posted on 21/08/09 08:58:05 AM
Nick Curtain
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
OK it's a fair cop Steve, but in fairness it is only half a cheat.

I did try distorting the elements you provided, but there was some barrel distortion from the lens on the background and I didn't have a clue what the nose looked like behind the chair. Time was not on my side, so I found an image taken at a very slight angle and manipulated it. I separated the background including nose and distorted it, rebuilt the nose, repaired the floor, added the reflection, removed the rail, but left in the steps which take you up onto the floor.

Yes, I suppose it is a cheat, but is that not the name of the game to get the job done?

Nick


Posted on 21/08/09 09:09:41 AM
Deborah Morley
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
Many thanks Steve. A very difficult challenge. Hope the next one is easier!

Posted on 21/08/09 09:12:19 AM
Sophie
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
Many thanks Steve. I am greatly encouraged by your comments. I think the nose in the second image could have been better in several ways including depth and light/shade and the bottom of it was a bit rough but I was pleased with the lips!

Quite some challenge this one.

Hope you had a good holiday.



Posted on 21/08/09 09:26:55 AM
GKB
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
Thanks Steve,

Sorry I didn't have time to do this one as briefed.

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Posted on 21/08/09 9:54:45 PM
brewell
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Re: Challenge 262: The Dali perspective
Very nice. It looks like the lip needs to move one more plank. I'm blaming the cleaning crew.

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