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Posted on 18/05/11 3:09:17 PM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Great entries everyone. I must admit I found this a difficult Challenge, didn't really know where to start as I knew what I wanted to do, just couldn't find the right images. So had to improvise.  |
Posted on 18/05/11 6:00:26 PM |
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Garfield72
Montage Manceau Posts: 353 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
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Posted on 19/05/11 03:37:34 AM |
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tissana
Thai Trickster Posts: 29 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
banquet  _________________ Futurebis |
Posted on 19/05/11 12:23:35 PM |
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JmarcP
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Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Hello, I didn't respond directly to the setpoint. I send you a DinoFreesbee. Best regards  |
Posted on 19/05/11 1:56:17 PM |
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BigVern
Q Quipper Posts: 674 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Wow .. some great imaginations and Photoshop skills at play this week stemming from an interesting concept for a challenge by Steve. Daniel's and Anna's 3D adventures are particular favourites although I do like all of them. I have some ideas for what I would like to do, but have not had the opportunity to sit in front of Photoshop and realise it. I am concerned that I am running out of week so may not be able to play this week. 
Maybe grab an hour or two tonight unless I am otherwise committed? Cheers Vern 
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Posted on 19/05/11 8:03:01 PM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Great works folks. I won't comment they are all great. Ok I love Anna's repose and Daniels 3D. Ben your subtle one really made me laugh 
I seem to have taken a wrong turn here. But I love art... Is this women vs male ego, but I don't know. I'm in trouble now ... sorry . She is a very famous Chinese dancer, if that helps.... 
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Posted on 19/05/11 10:02:05 PM |
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Emil
KAFKAsFRIEND Posts: 413 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Great work from all. Trevor I really like your work.  _________________ I have the true feeling of myself only when I am unbearably unhappy. - Franz Kafka |
Posted on 19/05/11 10:44:15 PM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Thanks Emil. PS did all the work this time after I spent so much time with palm trees last week I love your scales Great idea and it works very well the more I look at it
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Posted on 19/05/11 11:53:27 PM |
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sutex
Specular Specialist Posts: 157 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Tyrannosauring Dali's Last Supper...  |
Posted on 20/05/11 01:19:59 AM |
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sutex
Specular Specialist Posts: 157 Reply |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Hold on! I got another one.This is very NOUGTHY one!!!But if you remember Ice Age 1,2 and 3- it's just alright. PS.Nice night glasses Trevor,very nice. 
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Posted on 20/05/11 04:21:07 AM |
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Marty
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Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Great entries this week. Wish I had time, but work keeps getting in the way. _________________ Life is a great big canvas, and you should throw all the paint on it you can. ~Danny Kaye |
Posted on 20/05/11 08:48:11 AM |
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Steve Caplin
Administrator Posts: 7052 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
A little political comment starts the week, from bjansen - and it's a cleverly constructed image, with the marrying royals neatly cut out and only Harry taking notice of the dinosaur... and that officious hat is a great touch, as is the goofy expression. The busbies, complete with chin straps, on the smaller dinosaurs are a great touch. Very good work, a really funny jog that's very well executed. All that's missing is a shadow beneath the hat, but that omission isn't enough to stop you getting a much deserved title for this piece. So, Ben, I see you're a medical student... I think Satire Surgeon fits the bill here. Well, I did ask for a party inside a dinosaur, and Ben Mills has given us exactly that - so much so that we need an ultrasound scan to see what's going on in there. Clever work, Ben! Some complex modelling from Daniel, with a Gulliver-like human figure whose skeleton forms the location for a dinosaur party - a neat reversion! Beautifully constructed work - but perhaps the skin should have some thickness to it? A terrific second entry as well, but there's something rather flat about the lighting here - more shadows needed! A very fine staircase, though. One thing I'd like to ask here: do you model each figure independently, or do you model the whole scene in one go? So this is what it takes to get tooquilos into Repousse and Puppet Warp - well, I'm glad you've finally found them, as you've discovered they really are astonishingly powerful tools. You've produced some remarkably good-looking dinosaurs using this 3D inflation method, and it's good to see the added movement in the animated version. Good stuff. An extraordinary dinosaur-shaped restaurant from brewell, clearly constructed from concrete - very neat work. This must have been a real challenge to fit into the landscape. I like the way the text ripples over the spine fin. Clever. A somewhat magnificent ballroom, complete with dry ice, from Emvee. The figures with the microphone and violins work well, but the diners on the left are just too close - that man doesn't have room for his legs! You need a shot of them taken from further away. This is a perspective issue more than anything else: you can't take a close-up shot and move it into the distance, because the proportions will be all wrong. I've heard of self-service, but James's animation takes the idea to extremes... this guy willingly climbs into the dinosaur's mouth before pulling the upper jaw down, whereupon the dinosaur swallows him (nice gulping action there) before waiting for the next victim. Nice. What most intrigues me here, though, is not the Photoshop work but that remarkable ladder. What is it? Can I get one? A cleverly wrought invitation from puffin31939, with a hollowed-out party as the venue for a kids' party. I like the way the interior has been constructed, and the appropriate text style. The page curl is good, but the fold is perhaps just a bit too crisp for comfort. And a word on the balloons: to create variation, just move the Hue slider in the Hue/Saturation dialog, and you'll see that the hue of all of them changes as you do so (see LonnieK's entry for a good example of how this works). Flipping them horizontally does put the shadow and shine on the wrong side. Detailed work from LonnieK, with a somewhat one-sided set of party guests - just waiting for you to show up, are they, Lonnie? A perfect cutout on the figures, and a very nicely constructed hole in the dinosaur. The best thing here, though, is the subtlety of the reflection: I find it impossible to tell what was there in the original photo, and what you've added afterwards. Detailed and finely-wrought stuff - immaculate. There are many good features to LagoDiLecco's entry - the placement of the kids inside, on top of and climbing up the dinosaur head; the additional dinosaurs in the background; the good placement of the balloons. What confuses me, though, is why you've chosen to place the scene on a dull, flat industrial wasteland - if you're concerned about the lighting, change the background! It's rare that we get poetry on the forum, though - we have had the odd haiku - so thanks for the ode! A dinosaur neatly placed in a tropical greenhouse from Vibeke, complete with dining guests. It almost works: the problem is that the guests have been photographed close to, which is why the men in the foreground are so much larger than the women in the background. Once you move the whole lot back in the scene, the men just appear oversized. The only solution would be to cut them both to a new layer, and shrink them down - and perhaps flatten the view of the table, too, so we're not viewing it so much from above: 
A fine dino diner from PDelavigne, neatly constructed with steps, door and windows to the brightly lit interior. I like the customers, and the signpost - the head-shaped sign is a nice touch. The only thing I'm not sure about is that flat base, which looks unnatural and seems to detract from the scene. Plenty of perspective surfaces at thefullmontage! A remarkable piece of construction from Deborah Morley, with a perfect hole in the dinosaur - I really like that texture, and the thickness of the skin. Just curious, really, as to why the couple inside are sitting on scaffolding. And it's hard to work out what the man is doing on the ladder at the mouth: is he cooking? THere's some kind of object on the ground, and identical ones on the tongue and the back of the baby dinosaur, but I can't tell quite what they are. The scene's all set in Garfield72's entry, complete with page boy and steps to get into the dinosaur. This works really well, but I'd suggest just a couple of changes: the table and chairs are huge compared to the page boy; the text on the notice is just too small; and perhaps we could be treated to a better view than a dark field? A beautiful entry from tissana, with some very subtle touches - such as the stair rail going up the tail, and the balcony inside the mouth. Just a couple of points: the opened mouth looks rather two-dimensional: from this angle, we'd be able to see a little of the interior, and it would make all the difference. Oh, and watch the width of that handrail: 
I like JmarcP's Frisbee-throwing dinosaur - that mouth holds the Frisbee with great delicacy. But... the man is lit from the right, and the dinosaur is lit from the left... flip either of them, and it will be perfect! Typically off-topic work from Jota120, who has placed a dancer inside a giant illuminated stag. The woman towards the rear works well, but what are we to make of the one on the left, of whom we can see only the top part of the body? Is she inside, or projected onto the outside? And when you say "She is a very famous Chinese dancer, if that helps" - actually, Trevor, that information doesn't help a great deal. It's a very striking image, though, which puts me in mind of the Wicker Man. A striking, surreal and actually rather frightening entry from Emil , with a scary-looking clown (what is it about clowns?) welcoming us into the unseen interior of the dinosaur. There's a real sense of menace here, helped by the unnatural colours and the immaculate composition... interesting work! Glorious work from sutex, who has built upon Salvador Dali's Last Supper and added tremendous menace and action to the scene - fantastic! What a great image! Did you consider bringing that claw in front of the window partition, though? And I like the skeletal second entry - now that really is an awkward place for an acorn to get stuck. Entertaining work all round. A very good week. |
Posted on 20/05/11 09:16:39 AM |
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vibeke
Kreative Kiwi Posts: 2166 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Thanks Steve, It looked O.K. on my computer, but as soon as I uploaded it I knew something was wrong. Thanks for pointing it out. _________________ Perfect confidence is granted to the less talented as a consolation prize. |
Posted on 20/05/11 09:35:52 AM |
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Daniel
Poser Professor Posts: 192 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Thanks a lot for your comments Steve. To answer your question: I prefer to model everything in one go. This gives me a consistent overall lighting. The problem is as the number of polygons increases, 3D applications (including Poser) start having problems rendering the whole scene in one go (of course partially due the RAM size limitation of my iMAC). This time, both of my images were actually rendered in Vue. Vue has a more sophisticated render engine compared to Poser. However it is also more difficult to set up. I made the nature in the first image in Vue, then imported the human and dinosaurs from Poser (the complete scene) to Vue, modified some materials and rendered. The outdoor render in Vue is relatively straight forward. I went through the same procedure for the second image, but somehow did not mange to set up the light properly, so as you say the image became a little bit flat. I am struggling to understand how things work in Vue, partially because the documentation has been written by French engineers!
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Posted on 20/05/11 10:46:08 AM |
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sutex
Specular Specialist Posts: 157 Reply |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Thanks Steve.I actually was thinking to bring the claw in front of the window partition but later it found as it would demolish apostol's behaviour in the scene.I think its good as they don't panic yet cause they don't see what happen in the back in a next few seconds. Not big dramatic but still little dramatic.The time I saved to not bang this windows I produced my second entry...
Best regards Tomasz |
Posted on 20/05/11 11:44:19 AM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2905 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Many thanks Steve. I enjoyed the experimentation of this challenge. Thank you also Vern and Trevor..your comments are appreciated! _________________ Wicked Witch of the West: I'm melting! I'm melting! |
Posted on 20/05/11 11:59:29 AM |
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puffin31939
Montage Mariner Posts: 383 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
I knew the lighting would be wrong when I flipped the balloons but I hoped I might just get away with it... Never thought of changing the hue. One to store away for future use. Thanks, Steve _________________ Man cannot change the direction of the wind but he can adjust the sails |
Posted on 20/05/11 12:54:52 PM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Thanks again Steve for your comments and I am enlightened reading others. Sorry if I drift off the brief. The dancer is Yang Liping from Yunnan province. She often dances in silhouette, against the moon for example, so here, on my part, she is first inside and then outside or grows to confront or fly away outside. Someone I met recently here was subjected to domestic violence. She escaped and is fine now with a good man. She had to be strong to do that - fly away ... (of course it happens to men too, but not so often). Hope I did not put a dire shadow on my image with this comment. Yang Liping dances like birds e.g. peacock and crane, which have strong connections in Asian Culture of course. In this youtube she dances against the moon - peacock. Does not mean I understand it, but nice to share culture. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkLrFpo0lHA&feature=related I like the connection with Wicker Man, but I'd have to think more about that. |
Posted on 20/05/11 3:40:39 PM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Thanks Steve, The bloke on the ladder was painting - obviously didn't show that very well. Just thought it was appropriate that as the dinosaur was unfinished the scaffold would be there - and where else could they have sat down to have their cup of tea! Have a good weekend everyone. |
Posted on 20/05/11 4:24:39 PM |
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Daniel
Poser Professor Posts: 192 Reply |
Re: Challenge 351: No place for a banquet
Trevor, she was performing in a musical here in Tokyo last month, together with a group of Tibetan dancers. The musical was called "Tibetan Riddle". The show was just fabulous ... |
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