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Posted on 28/06/12 10:34:18 AM
Frank
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Posted on 28/06/12 11:33:29 AM
tooquilos
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josephine harvatt wrote:
That's lovely Tooquilous





Thanks Jo

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Posted on 28/06/12 12:58:49 PM
Sjef
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I agree with Josephine!! (don't thank me for it)

Posted on 28/06/12 12:59:08 PM
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Posted on 28/06/12 5:03:04 PM
james
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http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/fungismith/stallprime.gif

Posted on 28/06/12 5:20:44 PM
Jimbean
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Biltong is dried meat a bit like american beef jerky I guess tho never tried that, all kinds of meat are used so its a very varied taste! Hooray for Gradient Tool!!



Posted on 28/06/12 7:27:45 PM
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Posted on 28/06/12 11:49:14 PM
Artwel
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My picture lost some quality in the file size, Click the link for a better image,
Hi Res: http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/Artwel/PShop/StallsL-1.jpg





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Posted on 29/06/12 05:59:15 AM
Mariner
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Good looking girls, good looking picture Garfield.




Posted on 29/06/12 08:09:49 AM
Steve Caplin
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The thing that really surprised me this week was that Artwel managed to find a photograph of the stalls taken from exactly the same angle - how on earth did you track that down? Remarkable!

First to open up was Ant Snell, with a homage to the sitcom Only Fools and Horses. I like all the boxes, the old testcard image on the TV, and the cleverly integrated Reliant Robin in the background. Couple of technical points: try using Layer > Matting > Defringe or Remove White Matte to lose the white edge on both mobility scooters; and Filter > Noise > Median to reduce the moiré effect on Del Boy.

I was most taken with Sjef's animal mayhem, especially with the view of HotChiPs in the foreground - very nicely constructed. A couple of points: some objects cast shadows, some don't, but the sort of shadows you have there require much stronger sunlight than the scene shows. And it might be worth applying the Background Eraser to the upper part of the fan, to lose the white background. Otherwise, a very well conceived image. And is that me on the bicycle? Where did you find that? I think that's even my bike!

A great couple of puppet shows from joeysala, with some finely decorated stalls. I like the stripes on the nearest one, and the painted stage surround; the polka dots on the far stall don't seem to be in the same plane as the roof, though. The panels lying against the wheel work particularly well!

Puns galore in Brewell's United Nations entry - and that's a clever use of a hedge in the foreground to hide the lack of feet. You do need to sort out the perspective of those three stalls, which don't quite seem to belong in the same scene. No Boutros Boutros Garlic seller?

A rather beautiful scene from tooquilos, with great night lighting and a clever transformation of the stall into a gypsy caravan - very nicely achieved. A novel approach to fortune telling in the animated version - but I really want to hear the questions he's asking!

Detailed and ingenious work from Josephine Harvatt, with a pair of Sweeney Todd stalls - featuring the Demon Barber's stall in the background (with a subtle pool of blood beneath), and the proceeds of his acts sold on Mrs Lovett's pie stall. Excellent pies, with an angle that matches the scene perfectly, and great lettering throughout. Just one small point: Johnny Depp is surely rather taller than the slight Helena Bonham Carter, isn't he?

Fantastic work from Ben Boardman, full of detail and interest, with everything well considered and well placed in the scene (and I was intrigued by the slice of cake cut out of the coffee cup). A couple of small technical issues: the shadows are too strong and too much at an angle; and those birds are somewhat oversized compared to the people. But these are really minor points - the whole scene has been remarkably well conceived and executed.

I like Linda Eckert's entry, particularly the intricate cutout on the puppeteer. The tinting of the stall is good, as are the contents; the backdrop, though, seems a little flat inside it. Some shading would help, in three ways - at the top, to add shadow from the roof; on the right, to distinguish between the two vertical surfaces that make up the backdrop; and behind the objects:



An interesting stall from Mariner, which appears to have David Beckham and, er, is that Camilla Parker-Bowles as stallholders. Neither has anything to sell, but I'm impressed by the ingenious way in which the stalls have been opened and the background continued through the openings - beautifully done! I like the way it has been turned into a rainy day, too, which must have been tricky. Clever and subtle work.

A packed couple of stalls from Frank - the stall in front has a display that fits the perspective remarkable well, but I'm really intrigued by the patterned lipstick in the stall at the back! One perspective issue: the woman in the front is much too low in the scene. Since she's probably of a similar height to the other women, her eyes should really be on a line with theirs. And it's important to make sure you don't use colours that are too saturated, as they stand out in an uncomfortable way - the blue of that roof, for instance, is unnaturally strong:



A splendid automatic stall from James, operated both by remote control and, er, by a white rabbit in a suit. Excellent handling of the collapsing sides, and rebuilding of the view through the stalls - terrific, James.

A fine Biltong stall from Jimbean, complete with African tribesman selling it (although he seems to have lost a foot - a cunningly placed box or flowerpot could hide that neatly). I like the pearly king and queen behind, and the stall selling hats. But you have to watch those over-saturated colours, which leap out of the page and scream "photomontage": tone down the colours and everything will blend together much more convincingly. (Biltong is, in my opinion, far superior to beef jerky.)

Garfield72's three girls selling sports kit seem rather more proactive than the chap in front, whose technique for selling ham (I'm guessing) seems to be to rub his hands over it. I like the decoration, but you much watch the over saturation of that strong yellow. Small point: the brickwork as seen through the open stall needs to be sheared up slightly - it appears to be sloping down at present.

A beautiful scene from Artwel, with only the wheels remaining from the original stall as it's transformed into a steampunk cart, wheeled off into a rural idyll by a horse seemingly powered by a Van der Graaf generator. A terrific, idyllic scene, very artfully constructed.

Posted on 29/06/12 08:54:46 AM
Sjef
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Re: Challenge 408: Stalling for time
You're right of course about the shadows, they are a mess. And I wasn't smart enough to think about the fan. Thanks for pointing me out on this detail. Yes, that's Steve all right on his new bike
Read more about it here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/green-living-blog+uk/transport

Posted on 29/06/12 09:12:02 AM
Sjef
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Re: Challenge 408: Stalling for time
Artwel wrote:
My picture lost some quality in the file size...


Wow! It's far off the original, but at first it seems a lovely painting, then the technical structure hits the eye. Beautiful.


Posted on 29/06/12 09:13:46 AM
Mariner
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Thanks Steve. I missed your layer mask tutorial. Please let us know when we can see it again.




Posted on 29/06/12 09:23:00 AM
Frank
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I agree with both points - in a montage like that there are certainly many things to consider- and overlook it would appear
Thanks Steve

Posted on 29/06/12 09:47:24 AM
josephine harvatt
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He's standing in the gutter Steve *cough*

A belated round of applause to Artwel - the cart by itself would have been enough but to integrate it so seamlessly into the picture is the icing on the cake!

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Posted on 29/06/12 10:17:04 AM
Ant Snell
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Thanks for your comments Steve, the technical hints are particularly useful, I was aware of the white fringing and had tried to disguise it with the dodge tool I will try this new idea next time. I may not be able to enter this week as my PC’s hard drive blew up this week

Posted on 29/06/12 12:01:22 PM
Jimbean
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Cheers Steve, yes his foot bothered me too,tried painting it in but didnt look right never thought of a box!! will tone down the colours next time. You have made a lot of South Africans very happy saying Biltong is better than its american counterpart!!

Posted on 29/06/12 2:00:23 PM
Artwel
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Thanks Steve, i was going for a gypsy theme but Anna made a great one! I had to create that landscape out of a dozen images, I must have looked throught a hundred Tuscan landscapes but couldn't quite find the right image. Take a look at the wonderful 'Food landscapes' by Carl Warner.. http://www.carlwarner.com/index_small.html

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Posted on 29/06/12 6:30:09 PM
Deborah Morley
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Artwel,
An excellent image.

Posted on 29/06/12 11:05:06 PM
Ben Boardman
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Re: Challenge 408: Stalling for time
Thanks Steve.
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