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Posted on 21/05/14 8:11:02 PM |
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puffin31939
Montage Mariner Posts: 383 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
I thought extracting the people would be hard but that was quite easy compared with fitting them into another scene! I found the angle really difficult. I had two attempts but am not entirely happy with either  _________________ Man cannot change the direction of the wind but he can adjust the sails |
Posted on 21/05/14 8:11:43 PM |
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puffin31939
Montage Mariner Posts: 383 Reply |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
My other image  _________________ Man cannot change the direction of the wind but he can adjust the sails |
Posted on 22/05/14 2:22:24 PM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3126 Reply  |
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Posted on 23/05/14 04:17:41 AM |
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joeysala
Perfect Palmist Posts: 604 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Little St. Mary's Church (the Lesser), Cambridge  _________________ "Imagination, not invention, is the supreme master of art........" Joseph Conrad |
Posted on 23/05/14 07:18:21 AM |
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vibeke
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Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Done in a hurry  _________________ Perfect confidence is granted to the less talented as a consolation prize. |
Posted on 23/05/14 07:25:46 AM |
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hanxin16
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Posted on 23/05/14 08:30:02 AM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Excellent cutouts from everyone this week - it was a very tricky job, especially the smoke, and I'm pleased to say you all managed it with great flair. The thing that really surprised me this week was how it turned out to be possible to view the procession from so many different angles. For instance, Frank's excellent entry shows the group from a high-up window. The only small issue here is that the people at the back are really too small: there should be almost no sense of perspective within the group, from this distance. A fine graveyard setting from Daniel Millar, a very appropriate location. I'm not sure the people match the scale of the background, though: I'd recommend taking out that oversized gravestone at the back, which looks wrong. And perhaps desaturate those strong colours slightly so the grass doesn't jump out like that? I like Garfield72's low angle view of the procession, another angle I'd have thought wouldn't work - but it's a great shot, and they fit very neatly in there. Good choice. An interesting mosque setting from michael sinclair, but it works well here. I like the way you've made the shadows follow the light from the back left. Watch the little details, though: the woman at the front has her robe in front of the column, but she's standing behind it. And couldn't they do with a reflection? A perfect setting from Kathryn, with an excellent tonal match between the background and the foreground. A great cutout, too - I like the transparency in the lanterns. An exaggerated perspective from tooquilos, with a number of other faiths joining the procession - and another cold, lonely location. I like the changing weather in the animated version, with all the umbrellas coming out. But why does the smoke precede them down the road? And if you're not going to animate all those legs, perhaps they should be in a cart... I like the way Linda Eckert has them coming down the church steps - a nice idea. But you do need to compare the size of the people with the bystanders - those at the front are now huge! The problem is that the background you've chosen is too distant for the perspective of the original shot. Bring it all closer, and it should work. Two pieces of ingenuity from DavidMac. The first was splitting the group into multiple elements, which allows them to populate the scene nicely; and the second, of course, was the Escher-like rebuilding of the columns to create a fantasy perspective. Splendid! And you're right, it was a tricky cutout. I like the idea of Darren's montage, with the procession accompanying Grandpa Munster's coffin car - and is that Herman in the background? The people seem a little stretched vertically, though. Is this necessary? I think they'd have worked as well at the original scale. A great street angle from brewell, as the procession leads a brass band parade. I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to work out what they're carrying, and i just can't get it. Is it a shroud over something? If so, what? And why does it appear to have a lock of hair at the top? Help! I'm not usually a fan of special effects, but Ben Mills's oil paint filter has really been put to work to good use here. A most intriguing image, Ben, nicely realised. I like the way Ant Snell has turned the theme on its head, with the celebrants raising someone from a grave - a terrific expression on the face of the corpse, and great lightning and fire. Is he just a bit too big for the hole, though? A splendid choice of background from srawland, with crowding camera-wielding tourists pressing right in on the procession. How do you know these people are Jesuits, though, Sara? And yes, I believe 18th April or thereabouts was the date I took the photo - but it was last year, or possibly the year before. A glorious image from Emy, with the procession accompanying a funeral - and beautifully blended into the scene. The only thing that jumps out is the hard shadow behind and under the coffin bearers, which really needs softening. I'm very impressed with the way puffin31939 has combined the people with others in a crowded scene - so much so that I had to keep checking to see who was in the original shot. I like the second entry, too, but they seem to be walking out of nowhere: perhaps insert a door into the church behind them? A funny scene from Mariner, with a much more entertaining procession - one reading a racing paper, several with musical instruments, and the dog is a nice touch. A very well-placed clarinet! I like the fact that they're all queuing for the X Factor. A great choice of background from joeysala, with a setting that's absolutely appropriate, in that this is almost certainly where the procession started. Good Googling! A busy French street from Vibeke, and one on which the procession fits rather neatly. But rather than squeezing them vertically, try stretching the background instead - the effect would be a lot less noticeable. A new member this week, and hanxin16 has moved the procession to a very splendid modern church. The angle is just right, but it would be worth boosting the contrast on the background to make it match the strong tones of the procession. Also, don't forget to add a shadow beneath their feet. Welcome to the forum! |
Posted on 23/05/14 09:58:25 AM |
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puffin31939
Montage Mariner Posts: 383 Reply |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Thanks, Steve. I had to flip the background image in my first offering to get the angle right. That meant I had to remove or amend any signs that were obviously flipped - however the foreign language and a bit of blurring meant I could get away without doing too much. I fiddled with the second image for ages trying to see what wasn't quite right. I might move the procession further back towards the church and see if that improves it. Thanks for your helpful comments - I have learnt so much on this forum _________________ Man cannot change the direction of the wind but he can adjust the sails |
Posted on 23/05/14 10:11:33 AM |
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vibeke
Kreative Kiwi Posts: 2166 Reply |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Thanks Steve, right as usual, but as I said it was a rush job. _________________ Perfect confidence is granted to the less talented as a consolation prize. |
Posted on 23/05/14 10:17:35 AM |
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srawland
Pixel Perfectionist Posts: 885 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Thank you for the critique, Steve.
While I'm sure they are Catholics because of the incense, I'm not entirely certain that the Priest at least is Jesuit. However, Franciscans and Dominicans usually don't favor such highly ornate liturgical wear. Why I asked if it was taken on the 18th of April this year is because that was Good Friday and they look like they were involved in a public "Stations of the Cross" ceremony. Although I wouldn't think anything of seeing something like this in the U.S., say in Boston or Providence, I was under the impression that practicing religion was considered irrational and antediluvian across the pond. I am almost astonished to learn people are so openly displaying their faith in the UK, let alone in Cambridge. -Sara _________________ I'm still learning. |
Posted on 23/05/14 10:18:52 AM |
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puffin31939
Montage Mariner Posts: 383 Reply |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
A quick tweak. I think that integrates the procession better into the background - though it is getting very small!  _________________ Man cannot change the direction of the wind but he can adjust the sails |
Posted on 23/05/14 10:23:13 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5781 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Regarding the tricky cut-out, I am impressed how well everybody handled it. After fooling around for a while with specialised extraction software with very limited success I simply started again by hand painting my own layer mask. Fussy and time consuming but guaranteed.  |
Posted on 23/05/14 10:23:26 AM |
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brewell
Pixel Pentagrammarian Posts: 752 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
They are carrying the One True God. You'll have to go to the stadium to see it revealed. _________________ Onward and upward! Excelsior! |
Posted on 23/05/14 10:25:46 AM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3126 Reply |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Thanks, Steve. |
Posted on 23/05/14 2:34:26 PM |
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hanxin16
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Thanks, Steve.  |
Posted on 25/05/14 09:55:06 AM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2905 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Thank you Steve. I struggled with this one..I had a feeble attempt in animating the feet but failed terribly. It didnt occur to me to put them in a ute or cart lol. With the smoke..the young boy is holding a thurible which is generally swung from side to side spreading the smoke from the burning frankincense and myrrh. Assuming that the wind was blowing from the south it stands to reason that smoke would be blowing towards to north. _________________ Dorothy: "there's no place like home!" |
Posted on 29/05/14 1:03:33 PM |
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Frank
Eager Beaver Posts: 1770 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 505: The procession
Thanks Steve - tried it and agree. |
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