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Posted on 22/08/14 01:36:54 AM
Emy
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Posted on 22/08/14 05:12:11 AM
darrenandcolleen@telus.net
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Posted on 22/08/14 08:09:23 AM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Challenge 518: Open the curtains
Some excellent entries this week, but there were two common problems that seemed to trouble a lot of you:

1. The floor height
When making the view through the window, it's natural to want to show as much of the room as possible. But bear in mind that this is a ground floor window, so the floor height as seen through it should be at the same level as the floor seen through the open door. Some of you placed this floor much too high.

2. Rooms are rectangular
In almost every room in the world, walls are built at 90 degrees to each other, and facing walls are parallel. This means the view through the door and the window should show walls directly facing us. Many of you showed the view through one or the other at an angle, and of course this would entail a non-square room. If you were wondering why your image looks a little odd, this could well be the reason.

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An attractive night scene from ahmedalij started this week's entries, with a view through the window showing a lavishly decorated study, and a staircase seen through the open door. They both work individually, but see (1) above: the floor of the study is about a metre above that of the hallway. A touch of blue in the scene outside would accentuate the night feel.

A glimpse of a house of ill repute from Ben Boardman, nicely suggested by the red light and the scantily-clad women. The scale of the man just inside the window seems a touch on the large side, but only a little; he's too close to the size of the man outside, who himself seems rather large compared with the door. See (1) above: that armchair is floating in space! Excellent lighting, though.

A rather magical scene from tooquilos, whose stained glass window is a very neat solution to the problem - and I like your new door. Great rain in the animated version, and I really like the trick of seeing the interior of the room in the reversed scene - ingenious! Should the blue panes be quite so dark from the inside, though? I see the owner shares your taste in decor.

Some fine characters from Ant Snell, offering a typically Cambridge scene - although they do all look too big to fit through the door. I like the panelling seen through the window, but see (2) above. Perhaps the window should be glazed?

I like Vibeke's choice of room, staircase and especially the bicycle standing outside - a very Cambridge addition. But do check (1) and (2) above: there's no way that table and chair are on the same floor as the staircase!

An intriguing selection of entertainers from Linda Eckert, with buskers and a curious nun. I like the stained glass window, but the view through the door seems to have too much perspective for something so far away from us - you'd only get that extreme view if you were actually inside that corridor. And shouldn't the woman with the microphone be hooked up to a speaker?

A very interesting queue of (presumably) homeless people from srawland, queuing outside a remarkably brightly-lit hostel. Given the way the light is leaking out of the window and door, it should also produce a fuzzy edge on the two men frame by the doorway - they're just a little too crisp at present, and would be more in keeping if brightened up by the light.

A woman in a short skirt from Ben Mills - something of a habit of yours, I notice, Ben. I like the book-lined library seen through the window, but do check both (1) and (2) above - we shouldn't be able to see the floor through that window! I do like the treatment of the brickwork, though, which adds a lot of depth to the scene.

A good set of characters from puffin31939, both inside and outside the building. The view through the window is a little high - see (1) above - but you do have the room squared-up well. The problem with the perspective is that the perfect symmetry would only be visible if we were standing directly in front of the middle pane of the window. As we're slightly to one side, we should be seeing a somewhat skewed view of the room. Simple solution: stretch the room horizontally, sliding it to the right so it's centred with our vantage point.

A bunch of posh schoolboys from Garfield72 - all very well, but are you confusing Cambridge with Eton? A good view through the window, very well chosen; the view through the door seems rather too grand and brightly lit for an interior, though.

I hadn't heard of brewell's Open Carry movement, although I can guess its intent. Certainly, it's a cleverly composed image, the gun making the naked figure quite respectable. The women in the scene are individually excellent, but see (1) above: those on the left are just too high for comfort!

A night view from Frank, and I like the fact that this is a domestic rather than academic interior. I have to question your lighting, though: wouldn't the woman's shadow be dissipated by the light over the door? And how can a lamp of that shape cast light only downwards?

An interesting concept from Mariner, whose doorway separates two outdoor spaces (but if so, would the window be glazed?). I like the new floor, and the dog; not sure the light direction indicated by the dog's shadow would produce that kind of building shadow though - it's coming far too much from the right to add shadows of the buildings across the quad.

Good to see the celebrants from a few weeks ago making a reappearance in Kathryn's entry, and I especially like their lit candles - a very subtle effect. The lamp over the door is nicely done, although it does seem a little lacking in its intended purpose of casting light. A very consistent scene, though, and the hint of staircase works well.

A splendid animated tale from James, with the dog nagging at the door before being let in by its owner - and I like the fact that we can see him going upstairs through the window. But see (1) above: we shouldn't be able to see the floor through the window!

An excellent combination of door and window views from Deborah Morley, although the fireplace is just a little too high - see (1) above. I like all the blinds in the bin outside, although I think the College authorities might have a problem with a wheelie bin positioned in that location. Don't you like blinds, then?

A good barber shop from Daniel Millar, and I like the boy crouched at the entrance. The floor seems to be sloping up too sharply inside, though, resulting in an interior horizon level that's rather higher than that suggested by our eyeline on the outside. Tricky stuff, perspective! Good sign, and barber's pole.

A fabulous prison scene from Emy, complete with guard and a brutish-looking prisoner at the window. I really like all the extras - the new door, the distressed brickwork, the graffiti, and I especially enjoyed the way the old is blended in with the new. I have to say, Emy, you're producing spectacular work these days.

An extraordinary Shrek-inspired scene from darren: the building has been entirely reimagined, extended and built into a beautiful landscape. This is a fantastic piece of work, Darren, that's a real joy to examine closely. Many congratulations!

Posted on 22/08/14 08:29:08 AM
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Challenge 518: Open the curtains


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Posted on 22/08/14 08:36:30 AM
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Re: Challenge 518: Open the curtains
Thanks, Steve.


Posted on 22/08/14 09:17:01 AM
Steve Caplin
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Challenge 518: Open the curtains
scplay wrote:


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Just in too late for my round-up! A good entry, and I really like the rain - but watch those floor levels!

Posted on 22/08/14 09:36:23 AM
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Thank you Syeve, I found this image on google and I thought it was cambridge. sorry



Posted on 22/08/14 09:42:29 AM
Deborah Morley
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Re: Challenge 518: Open the curtains
Thanks Steve. I had already slid the fireplace down (is that English)?, but not enough.
Emy, really great work.
Darren, that really is fantastic.

Posted on 22/08/14 2:59:32 PM
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Re: Challenge 518: Open the curtains
Steve Caplin wrote:

A very interesting queue of (presumably) homeless people from srawland, queuing outside a remarkably brightly-lit hostel. Given the way the light is leaking out of the window and door, it should also produce a fuzzy edge on the two men frame by the doorway - they're just a little too crisp at present, and would be more in keeping if brightened up by the light.



Thank you for your critique. I knew you'd comment about the light. I did throw you off with that "not about Jesus" comment. That part is still true but I should have added it is still an image of redemption. The man in the doorway is lit up because he is from inside. The homeless people in the disorganised queue are the unredeemed, which is why they are dark and the light from the window isn't touching them. It's supposed to be allegorical.

I saw your comment about the floor level. I knew this was a problem with this image and I did try to find one where the tables were set with food but set back enough so they would be at floor level. I had compromise here because I just didn't have time to make my own tables. If I have time, I will post a "corrected" version in the topic I started in the Readers gallery topic I started.

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Posted on 22/08/14 4:37:55 PM
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Thank you dear Steve for your nice review , I thought that there is cellar underneath that room .

Posted on 22/08/14 5:23:06 PM
darrenandcolleen@telus.net
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Re: Challenge 518: Open the curtains
Thx for the kudos, it is interesting how each piece evolves in imagination and as you work away on it. For example, I originally was going with a 3 pigs theme, brick house, wood house and straw house. As I worked away on brick house it then reminded me of an updated Shrek house. The creativity allowed and your clever tutorial books are what I think I enjoy most about "cheating in photoshop". Cheers everyone and thx again Steve, Darren

Posted on 22/08/14 6:07:05 PM
Emy
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Thank you so much Steve.

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Posted on 24/08/14 10:51:43 AM
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Thank you so very much Steve. Yes, I gave a few tips to the owner about the decor

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Posted on 27/08/14 12:01:05 PM
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Re: Challenge 518: Open the curtains
Thanks Steve , agree on both points

Posted on 28/08/14 12:13:09 PM
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Re: Challenge 518: Open the curtains
Thanks, Steve. I spent ages trying to work out the horizons of the door and window views but I never gave any thought to the angle of view through the window. As always a great way of learning - thanks again.

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