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Posted on 24/09/14 7:57:58 PM
DavidMac
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gaoxiguo wrote:
大家好 好久不来 挑战星期五这里依然这么热闹!



Now this is a really refreshing interpretation!

Posted on 24/09/14 8:43:32 PM
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Not quite a century ago, but...



Posted on 24/09/14 9:58:54 PM
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Posted on 25/09/14 12:47:37 PM
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Posted on 25/09/14 1:06:53 PM
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Posted on 25/09/14 2:56:30 PM
Deborah Morley
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Thanks David. I was trying to reconcile two wrong shadows with another wrong one.
Amended I hope.



Posted on 25/09/14 3:09:58 PM
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Posted on 25/09/14 3:25:04 PM
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Short of time again! (Training for a marathon takes up an awful lot of time.) No time to make the photo sit on a table with a shadow etc. Time has run out



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Posted on 25/09/14 8:59:34 PM
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St Ives, Cornwall






Posted on 25/09/14 11:15:29 PM
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Here is my try on this one.



Posted on 25/09/14 11:25:38 PM
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Posted on 26/09/14 08:18:49 AM
Steve Caplin
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A fine period piece from ahmedalij started this week's entries, with a vintage car and a very nicely placed sailing ship.The new barrel on the left seems a little small for its position, and is it perhaps a touch too bright? I like the colouring in the second entry, and the new paint has been cleverly applied to the building.

A charming image from Deborah Morley - I like the Magritte-style way in which the man's face is hidden. But - shadows, shadows, shadows! I see you've done some fixing in the second entry, but you still need to watch those directions, especially on the shadow of the horse!

A very entertaining Wild West scene from Darren, with a bucking bronco in front of the new street scene. Something a little odd about the perspective of the barrel on the left: does it need to be sheared up a fraction on the right?

An extraordinary cart from Vibeke: what a monster that is! A well integrated background, too, and a nicely cleaned-up building. I feel it could do with some sort of element in that expanse of empty space, though: a cat, perhaps?

A great set of coopers from Ant Snell, settling perfectly into the scene. I saw a film about the barrel-making process at the Guinness brewery in Dublin, and was amazed at the level of skill involved. Very well chosen indeed.

Some beautiful colouring from Linda Eckert, with a splendidly rustic gentleman standing on his splendidly rusty steps. I think he's a bit too large, though, given the height of the handrail. But a great perspective match with the original.

I like the way srawland has incorporated the building into a West Wycombe street - very neatly dropped into place, but is it a bit too small? That doorway doesn't look as if it could accommodate the man standing across the street. And incidentally, I have friends who live near West Wycombe, and I'm sorry to say it doesn't look like that any more.

A fine display of barrel-making from Ben Boardman, with a combination of activities that covers just about the entire process. I especially like the view through the open door, to the well lit interior. I do feel there's a background missing here, though: perhaps one or two buildings looming through the smoke?

Interesting that DavidMac should choose the same coopers as Ant Snell - but what's just as interesting is how different the finished treatment looks. A very coherent scene.

A first Friday Challenge entry from bilal-izaddin, and it's a great Western scene with three old folk chewin' the fat outside the barrel shop. The building next door is in a good perspective, but it seems rather dark and low contrast in comparison: try increasing the contrast to make it fit the rest of the image more closely. Welcome to the forum, Bilal.

A fine array of barrels from Garfield72, and every trace of the 20th century duly removed. But I can't help feeling the absence of some human content here: the scene really needs a person in it!

A Western town from tooquilos, with a great-looking saloon in the background. I like the cart, too, but I think such a strong perspective would be possible only if it were rather higher in the scene - check your horizon levels! A wonderful introduction to the animated version, and a charming scene of magic and mystery. Now that's the way to sell snake oil!

A Chinese location from gaoxiguo, beautifully translated with banners, a large earthenware jar and new windows and roof. Very nice work. Good to see you back!

An interesting image from Daniel Millar, with a collection of objects from, it seems, the 1930s. A few size and perspective issues here, Daniel: the truck should certainly be bigger, and higher in the scene for the perspective to work; and the shadow needs to run along the ground more before heading up the wall.

The barrel truck drives away in James's entry - and I like the way the two men wave at each other, as well as how the driver changes direction to drive the vehicle. Watch that back wheel, though - it goes below, and so in front of, the barrel on the left.

A thoroughly sanitized environment from Mariner, with an ocean liner in the background - and behind it, a sailing ship. Now I'm no expert on maritime architecture, Michael, but it seems to me that the liner would be very much bigger than the boats behind - look at the people on the dock. Surely they couldn't be expected to handle masts of that size? I do like the revised lighting direction, though, which has been remarkably well achieved.

A beautiful multi-level scene from Frank, with a fine background replacing the modern buildings. THere's a slight disparity of horizon levels here, though; maybe shear the buildings down on the left for a tighter fit.

A great view from Emy, with a perfectly blended background of river and ships. I really like the way you've brought in that fishing net over the ground, which ties the scene together very well. Excellent.

A couple of great characters from puffin31939, and I like the piled-up barrels on the left. The hill forms a very appealing background, too. Maybe lose the deep shadows, and assume it's an overcast day?

A stormy day in Cornwall from Michael Sinclair, with our building nestling in the waves on the right. It's only just in shot, but its presence is hinted at by the barrel floating in the sea. Very nice work, Michael, and almost on topic!

A dramatic scene from shaneworth71, and very fine it is too: excellent recolouring, a strong vignette effect to draw the eye into the picture, and I like the way the new ground tiles lead the viewer towards the ship in the background - aided by Captain Sparrow's gesture. My only concern is those two barrels on the dock: are they just a little too bright, and is the one on the right missing its shadow?

Excellent work, a very high standard this week.

Posted on 26/09/14 08:48:17 AM
Deborah Morley
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Thanks Steve.
How would you have done the shadows? The horse shadow was part of the image of the horse. I thought that worked ok with the original building (apart from the barrel shadow, which I amended in the second entry). The main problem was the man's shadow.

Posted on 26/09/14 09:12:29 AM
Mariner
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Re: Challenge 523: The barrel shed
Steve Caplin wrote:

…with an ocean liner in the background - and behind it, a sailing ship. Now I'm no expert on maritime architecture, Michael, but it seems to me that the liner would be very much bigger than the boats behind - look at the people on the dock. Surely they couldn't be expected to handle masts of that size?



Steve, there is only one boat. As sail changed to steam there were some hybrids. This is one of them. The doors in the side of the boat give you an idea of its size. Here is the original model I used.






Posted on 26/09/14 09:55:36 AM
DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 523: The barrel shed
Steve Caplin wrote:

Interesting that DavidMac should choose the same coopers as Ant Snell.



It proved surprisingly difficult to find photos of coopers that weren't in modern dress. I found very few usable ones indeed. The one that Ant and I chose somehow stood out from the rest so clearly and dropped into the perspective so naturally and perfectly that perhaps we shouldn't find the coincidence remarkable. It seemed to beg to be used.

Posted on 26/09/14 10:26:07 AM
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Deborah Morley wrote:
Thanks Steve.
How would you have done the shadows? The horse shadow was part of the image of the horse. I thought that worked ok with the original building (apart from the barrel shadow, which I amended in the second entry). The main problem was the man's shadow.


The man's shadow is the same shape as the man, but stretching out along the ground behind him. The horse shadow is a blob directly beneath the horse, which suggests a very different listening position. I'd make the man's shadow match that of the horse so it's just a shape on the ground beneath him.

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Posted on 26/09/14 10:29:00 AM
Steve Caplin
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Mariner wrote:

Steve, there is only one boat. As sail changed to steam there were some hybrids. This is one of them. The doors in the side of the boat give you an idea of its size. Here is the original model I used.




I should have known better than to question a Mariner!

Posted on 26/09/14 12:58:37 PM
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Thank you, Steve for your critique. The building is so small because I wanted to use the original roof from the West Wycombe image.

Steve Caplin wrote:

And incidentally, I have friends who live near West Wycombe, and I'm sorry to say it doesn't look like that any more.



That's a shame. The entry on Wikipedia made it sound like it had been kept as a historical village. I guess this is another example of why you can't trust Wikipedia.

I hope you have fun on your trip, wherever you are going.

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Posted on 26/09/14 1:31:54 PM
shaneworth71
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Thank you for the advice and your right the dock barrels do seem a tad to bright. The shadow was there I just didn't get it adjusted properly. I should have brought it out and over a tad more.

Posted on 26/09/14 4:03:54 PM
Emy
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Thank you Steve.

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