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Posted on 04/03/19 8:30:44 PM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5776 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
What a great idea. Definitely challenging ..... as you say. But well done!  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 05/03/19 07:17:35 AM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2904 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Hi David Ive looked at your image for ages trying to see where the illusion begins and ends..at what point does the switch happen..and I just can't see it. It flows happily along the ground level and before you know it you are on the 2nd level. Astounding work. http://vimeo.com/321421641  _________________ Wicked Witch of the West:I'll get you, my pretty! And your little dog, too! |
Posted on 05/03/19 09:18:05 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5776 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
First off, before I reply, your own entry is, as ever, beautifully done. I love the cross section of the cooker with everything active! Just splendid. And even a bit of Matrix style Time Slice photography thrown in at the end for good measure! I did wonder about cross sections myself but I didn't want to repeat my "Nipper" cutaway so, prompted by Steve's enjoyment of last weeks perspective game, I opted for something different ........ which just about scrapes into the "half" topic. Which brings us to your comment. Well I am not giving away my secrets too easily! Truth to say there aren't any secrets ...... just simple manipulation. There isn't really a 'switch' as such but there is an overlap, a transition if you like, around the lamp standard where things are ambiguous and can be perceived as both similar or different levels. I am sorry - I wish I could explain it better but it isn't really that cut and dried. I have had very poor vision from birth in one eye which means I do not see with true binocular stereoscopic vision. Schoolboy cricket was a nightmare of bruised fingers for me and I stopped driving many years ago! I unconsciously use other things such as parallax, relative size of known objects and haze and saturation as depth cues. I have often wondered if this is why it easier for me to understand and manipulate perspective and depth. Anyway I am glad you are baffled!  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 05/03/19 09:49:17 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5776 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Anna. One thing I completely omitted to mention is that the image has no true perspective. It is created in 'isometric' or 'parallel' projection. Parallels are true parallels and do not converge with distance to a vanishing point. This enables me to circumvent depth cueing by convergence or relative size. It makes it possible to make things at different distances appear to be co-planar. Did that help ..... ?  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 05/03/19 5:54:49 PM |
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Linda Eckert
maîtresse marocaine Posts: 148 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
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Posted on 06/03/19 00:07:09 AM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3123 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Linda, what a strange and intriguing compostiion you have produced this week. I couldn't stop looking at it. |
Posted on 06/03/19 04:50:57 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5776 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Yes me too. The man's head and shoulders are so symetrical they look mirrored. Intriguing. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 06/03/19 06:27:47 AM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3123 Reply |
God: the creation of Adam
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Posted on 06/03/19 08:59:57 AM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2904 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Thank you David. Its not an easy feat cutting things in cross section, hence I resorted to Google for the majority of the images..then just added a few bits and pieces. I can see, now that you have mentioned it, the slight transition near the light. Im sorry to hear about your vision. Must of made your job as a cameraman quite challenging at times? Or maybe you saw things that others missed? Interesting. As far as your second comment goes, Im still scratching my head!! But Ill take your word for it  _________________ Wicked Witch of the West:I'll get you, my pretty! And your little dog, too! |
Posted on 06/03/19 08:59:59 AM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2904 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Thank you David. Its not an easy feat cutting things in cross section, hence I resorted to Google for the majority of the images..then just added a few bits and pieces. I can see, now that you have mentioned it, the slight transition near the light. Im sorry to hear about your vision. Must of made your job as a cameraman quite challenging at times? Or maybe you saw things that others missed? Interesting. As far as your second comment goes, Im still scratching my head!! But Ill take your word for it _________________ Wicked Witch of the West:I'll get you, my pretty! And your little dog, too! |
Posted on 06/03/19 11:39:55 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5776 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
I think it helped. Until the relatively new phenomenon of 3D all movie was monocular. Cameramen have to adapt to that. I didn't need to, since it wasn't far from my natural vision. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 07/03/19 3:38:29 PM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 948 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Hello everybody. Always lovely to see what you've all been up to and never a disappointment. Had no ship today so I decided it was practice time once again. Half a tea pot...never. Always have to have a second cup so I made mine whole. I wonder if Steve will pick up what belongs to him in this image.  _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 07/03/19 8:49:52 PM |
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michael sinclair
Off-Topic Opportunist Posts: 1871 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Excellent work Anna...hmmm, could you show us how you did the water from the tap: it's so realistic!
Ran out of time today  but here's a "deja vu"
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Posted on 07/03/19 9:46:59 PM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2904 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Thanks Michael. The water is realistic because it is real. It's a video recording of a tap running and just masked out the background and used screen mode. Did the same with the drips at the end. Ive attached of screen shot of what they looked like.  _________________ Wicked Witch of the West:I'll get you, my pretty! And your little dog, too! |
Posted on 08/03/19 06:27:42 AM |
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srawland
Pixel Perfectionist Posts: 885 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
It's explained in the animation. Animation: http://vimeo.com/322170743  _________________ I'm still learning. |
Posted on 08/03/19 08:38:28 AM |
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Steve Caplin
Administrator Posts: 7047 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
A splendidly facetious half cock from DavidMac kicked off this weeks proceedings - nicely constructed, as is the other half of the kettle in the second entry: I particularly like the way the lid has been moved back to the top in this one. The third entry is a glorious illusion, of the type at which you’re particularly skilled. I always marvel at these constructions. I could stare at them for hours. Absolutely agree about Shepard vs Disney! A cheeky entry from Ben Mills, which will doubtless baffle those from outside the UK or, indeed, those younger than about 50. A ‘half crown’ was the name for the sum of two shillings and sixpence (a crown being five shillings) before the UK decimalised its currency in 1971. Not sure what to call lwc's entry - a demijohn, perhaps? Nicely done, the slice of skirting board between the two halves neatly accentuating the gap. Tidily sliced credit cards from Frank - a useful message to us all. But you have the reflected wood going at the wrong angle: as the blade is vertical, the reflection should appear as if the wood continues in a straight line through it. And perhaps we should see the back end of the credit cards? 
Extraordinary work from Ant Snell: the half glass and half bottle must have been seriously hard to construct. You set yourself a really tough challenge, but lived up to its expectation. I enjoyed tooquilos's half cup and teapot, beautifully cut in half. I like seeing the water level rising in the animated version, and the cutaway stove is fascinating. Great steam and mixing effects in the teacup; but apart from the oddness of storing milk in a teapot, surely the milk level needs to be horizontal? Gravity, and all that? The balletic pot at the end is charming. And a very fine choice of music. Pot juggling from Linda Eckert, with a good placement of the flying teapots. Very interesting shapes here. Can I suggest Layer > Matting > Defringe? It would help with those white edges. Half a masterpiece from Mariner - and is this a subtle twist on the bible story? It seems to me the colon in your title God: the creation of Adam is a neat reversal. Very interesting. A beautifully rebuilt kettle from dwindt, with the spout neatly moved to the other side and a perfectly opened lid. a fine selection of objects, very well blended together. As for what belongs to me - all I recognise is that brandy glass! Good to see you back, its been a while. More mindless destruction from michael sinclair - it’s as if he picks a single word from the brief and runs with it. Entertaining, certainly, but I wonder at the curious sequence that leads to the dust cloud appearing and disappearing… is this quite finished? Deeply intrigued by srawland's “half-inator”. The animated version explains all: beautifully done - I love those googly eyes, and all the incidental sounds. And your friend Tony has done a splendid job on the voiceover, as always. Splendid! |
Posted on 08/03/19 08:54:05 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5776 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Thank you Steve. It was another fun week. ...... as for 'demijohn' ....... Oooooh Oooooof....... _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 08/03/19 09:09:53 AM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3123 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Thanks Steve. Yes, my attempt at subtlety. So that's how you spell it. |
Posted on 08/03/19 09:23:18 AM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 948 Reply |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Thanks for the kind comments and well done to everyone else. The windows as well as the brandy glasses are yours. You allowed us to use them in a challenge at Graphics.com, many years ago. I made alpha maps with them and built them into the cabin that I modeled for the challenge. I then applied displacement, normal and bump maps to them. Well spotted on the brandy glass. You've got very keen eyes. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 08/03/19 11:09:28 AM |
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Frank
Eager Beaver Posts: 1769 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 745: Half a kettle
Thanks Steve , you're right, I wondered about that reflection and should have tried it in real before processing. Still not quite sure if the cards would show ( or how much of them). |
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