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Posted on 26/11/23 10:25:50 PM |
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GKB
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Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Hi Dennis If your ‘blatant mistake’ is the radial engines on a Lancaster then don’t worry; some Lancasters were produced with Bristol Hercules radial engines until the US upped their production of the Merlin. _________________ If at first you don't succeed then skydiving is not for you. |
Posted on 26/11/23 11:21:48 PM |
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michael sinclair
Off-Topic Opportunist Posts: 1853 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Great work everyone, and special commendations for Loyd, and Gordon for being spot on brief. I apologise I was unable to follow in the same vein. A word to Dennis: We demand that you show us more of your superb drawings: my respect for you has gone up some notches. 
I hope Mr Caplin doesn't notice that I'm not using the original image. 
Configuring the propellers from scratch was a very difficult thing to do!  |
Posted on 27/11/23 00:40:50 AM |
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lwc
Hole in One Posts: 3125 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Good one Dennis... I certainly couldn't spot anything wrong. Your sketch is wonderful, and gave me an idea for a museum oil painting. I expected to see some 'flak' from you Gordon... nicely done! Thanks Michael, your propellers are excellent... well done! |
Posted on 27/11/23 00:44:00 AM |
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lwc
Hole in One Posts: 3125 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Not animated. Characters from Photoshop.London |
Posted on 27/11/23 08:28:38 AM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 874 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Gordon, you're sharp. It is the engines I was worried about. I never knew they used a radial engine to, so thanks for that. thanks David. He was a handsome man and a big man. He wanted to follow in his eldest brothers footsteps and fly a Spitfire but his shoulders where too wide for the cockpit. Steve's going to kick my butt for being off topic so much this week but here is a photo of him looking out of the Hudson bombers cockpit. I attempted coloring it for my mom's album.  _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 27/11/23 09:49:50 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5556 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Yes I had picked up on the slow moving clouds but failed entirely to spot the movement relative to the near static moon.  Very subtle! _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 27/11/23 09:58:39 AM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
They look great! Spin blur? _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 27/11/23 12:16:53 PM |
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GKB
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Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Michael, good job on spinning those props even if the image was ever so slightly off-brief  _________________  |
Posted on 27/11/23 6:23:44 PM |
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Ant Snell
Specular Specialist Posts: 557 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
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Posted on 27/11/23 6:46:08 PM |
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GKB
Magical Montagist Posts: 3972 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Didn't like the moonlit sky on my first post so I had another bash at it. Bit of artistic license as the RAF wouldn’t mount a raid under a full moon. Tally ho chaps. http://vimeo.com/manage/videos/888785417 
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Posted on 28/11/23 04:33:49 AM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2885 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
http://vimeo.com/888944596 I had to really look long and hard at the Vickers Hover Bomber and even still I'm not entirely convinced it's not real. The match is astounding. Well done. David. And here's Dennis' dad - good god. I thought it was a photo of him. What an extraordinary gift you have. You've even captured the veins on his hands - I'm speechless.  _________________ Wicked Witch of the West: I'm melting! I'm melting! |
Posted on 28/11/23 07:03:37 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5556 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Nice bit of dam busting Ant. I can hear the music! Not sure why but I preferred the previous version Gordon. Anna thank you. To be honest I made it a lot easier for myself by doing the Hover Bomber in black and white. I love your steam punk adaptation. It works perfectly! _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 28/11/23 07:03:37 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5556 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Double post removed. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 28/11/23 9:17:44 PM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5556 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Although this picture is in no way connected to him, my father was invalided out of active RAF service when he was blinded in one eye. He was sent to Plymouth where he was obliged, twice a week, come rain come shine, freezing or not, to jump into the sea from the jetty in full flying kit to train pilots in how to ditch at sea. When the war was over and he came home, he had managed to 'liberate' a very large yellow circular inflatable life raft which in a reverse of its intended role was filled with water and became our infant paddling pool. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 01/12/23 00:00:00 AM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 874 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
A tribute to all those that kept us safe, never the less the role you played. If it wasn't for unity and perseverance...Thank you! Unfortunately, many have forgotten. May The Lord have mercy on us.  _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 01/12/23 08:57:31 AM |
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Steve Caplin
Administrator Posts: 6994 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
First to board the Avro Lancaster (thanks, Gordon) this week was DavidMac, with a rather charming shopping mall image. I think the Rolling Stones emblem on the nose of the plane works perfectly, although health and safety would have something to say about those sharp projecting guns. The hover bomber is an ingenious mashup – completely convincing. You really can’t see the joins. The plane fits well into the lifeboat image – I particularly like the foaming sea around it. A tight night sortie from lwc, with the gunners neatly installed inside the domes. The added wing makes perfect sense there, and the passing fighter plane adds interest. I like the rain and the gunfire. The art gallery is nicely composed, but the brilliant white of the mount is rather at odds with the subdued white of the cornice on the neighbouring walls. A beautiful reconstruction from Frank, merging the nose immaculately onto an existing plane. Very atmospheric. If I were being pedantic I might suggest that the moon should cast shadows towards us, but I’ll assume another light source behind the camera. I’ve been trying to spot dwindt's “deliberate mistake”, but not being an aviation expert it eludes me. It’s a powerful image, though, very neatly composed. I particularly like the wide format framing. Sounds like you come from a seriously aeronautical family! Your portrait of your father is outstanding. You have a serious talent. Good to see the cockpit photo, too. No butts need kicking when off-topic is as interesting as this. And your final image is beautiful. A night scene from GKB, with added gunners and pilot (what is the chap right in the front doing, by the way?). The angles on the crew are perfect. I like the Dambusters theme in the animated version, and the radio chatter and engine noise add a lot of atmosphere. Shouldn’t those flak explosions make a bang sound? The fact that they’re all identical is a bit of a giveaway; I’d suggest a little scaling/rotation to vary their appearance. Not sure the full moon version is necessarily an improvement, although it did give me an opportunity to watch the animation again. A flaming engine from michael sinclair, but curiously the engine that isn’t working isn’t the one that’s on fire. An entertaining image, although I’d have thought with an engine (or two) out the plane would be going down, rather than up. I like the way you’ve spun the propellers. An interesting view from Ant Snell, with the plane flying low over a curiously medieval-looking building. The blur confuses me here, though: tight focus on the cockpit and blur on the wings does make sort of sense, but the sharp building is rather at odds with it. Steampunk time for tooquilos, with a gorgeous fantasy flying machine. The blue glass contrasts perfectly with the brass fuselage, the floating island adds huge visual interest, and the lighting is gorgeous – a really impressive piece of work. I like the propeller spin in the animated version, as well as the glides over the different landscapes. The snow is particularly entertaining, for some reason. And the landing at the end… well, for some reason I don’t think that’s West Virginia. |
Posted on 01/12/23 10:00:02 AM |
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GKB
Magical Montagist Posts: 3972 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Thanks Steve There are just two crew in the image. One is the pilot and the other is the bomb aimer. There is nobody in the front turret as he doubles as the bomb aimer during the run in to the target. Nice work everyone. _________________ Have you ever noticed that all the instruments designed to detect intelligent life are pointing away from the Earth? |
Posted on 01/12/23 10:01:34 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5556 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Thanks Steve. The hover bomber was successful because I did it in black and white. The shiny black of the Lancaster proved nigh on impossible to blend into the chopper in colour. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 01/12/23 2:06:21 PM |
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lwc
Hole in One Posts: 3125 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Thanks Steve...! |
Posted on 02/12/23 07:32:48 AM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 874 Reply |
Re: Challenge 981: The plight of the navigator
Thanks Steve and well done everybody. The mistake was using a B52's wings for the Avon. They have radial engines. The Lancaster's engines are different. Gordon thankfully came to the rescue and advised that the Lancaster initially used radial engines. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
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