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Posted on 02/04/24 00:06:35 AM
lwc
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Re: Challenge 998: Back to the museum
Uh-oh...!!!




Posted on 04/04/24 06:29:32 AM
Mariner
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Dedicated Followers of Fashion
Regency Era (1811 - 1820) is the fashion. I just had to get rid of those ugly Victorian-style railings.



Posted on 04/04/24 10:16:54 AM
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Very Beau Brumell'ish. I love the long men's jackets of that period. I even have a couple myself! I acquired them when the Royal Opera house here sold off some of its old costumes. They are labelled inside with the name of the opera and the singer for whom they were made.

Beautifully done Michael.

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Posted on 04/04/24 10:27:15 AM
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Thank you David. It gave me many hours of pure pleasure
I really like the way women dressed in the early 1800's - they looked so feminine compared to the weird Victorian women.

Posted on 04/04/24 11:45:02 AM
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Nicely done everyone - some interesting takes - lot of work in your reconstruction Michael- nicely done - your pleasure shows through.

Posted on 04/04/24 1:31:58 PM
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Re: Challenge 998: Back to the museum
Thanks Frank.

Posted on 05/04/24 09:14:54 AM
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Re: Challenge 998: Back to the museum
First to enter the museum this week was Ben Boardman, with a glorious montage: the skeleton wound around the pillar, of course, but also the one it’s chasing, as well as the new display unit and a truly fantastic Senses exhibit (although interesting that there a six of them). I like the sleeping warder, and the girl with the plasma globe. And Grover Krantz is magnificent. What’s the object lying on the nearest cabinet?

It’s dress-up day for Frank, with an authentic peasant (are we still allowed to say that?) who seems quite comfortable beneath a lurching skeleton, and it’s good that she’s holding an exhibit. I like the way you’ve inserted your photo behind the skeleton in the display case. But don’t forget to add glass!

A 3D diorama from DavidMac, with men in the boat hunting a remarkably agile whale. (Do whales do that? Or are you thinking of dolphins?) I like the fact that we can see the edge of the display inside the case. The three children are perfectly judged and, of course, immaculately lit. I greatly enjoyed the explosive energy of the Fenland Citizen, with its intricate blending of water, wood and flying glass – as well, of course, as the flying museum guard (do they still wear peaked caps?). Have to say, though, the Fenland Citizen doesn’t look like a great newspaper if the second featured article is “Coffee Shop Plan”. And standing against an incinerator sounds like a bad idea.

I couldn’t read the display card in GKB's entertaining construction, but I do like the centaur – and, indeed, the anatomical figures in the cases nearby. A few anomalies: the glazing bars of the case should be in front of the skeleton; why does the skeleton still have knees; and why is the man gazing at the empty corner of the case, rather than at the centaur?

A free-floating whale from tooquilos in a beautifully lit case. Even better, though, is the subtlety of the skeleton perfectly incorporated into the case next to it, and the immaculate placement of the mummy in the angled case on the table. Love how you’ve turned the river into a road in the animated version, with the whale just visible beneath the road surface. It’s good to see the swimming whale in the museum. Glorious.

I was knocked out by Ben Boardman’s entry, with its vast amount of detail: turning the case into a touch tank, with the reflections not only of the children but of the cases behind; the signs on the tank and the nearby case; the guard asleep with his mask and flippers. Flying fish cake! And, most impressively of all to my mind, the brilliant way of dealing with the refraction at the corner of the right hand fish display. It’s this kind of attention to detail that really impresses me, both for the effort involved and the realisation that it needed doing. The only thing that jarred was the placement of the girl on the left, who appears to be resting her hands on a rail that’s at ankle level.

A good gag from Ant Snell, with the part-finished Stones case. That’s a remarkably sturdy Coming Soon board, but I like the fact that you’ve included the museum logo.

I don’t know what caused lwc's conflagration, but it’s beautifully achieved: the flames, the sparks, the smoke, the few flames escaping from the case, and the skeleton just visible inside. I like the jittering reflections on the nearby cases. Your man in the silver suit needs to get a move on.

A real surprise from Mariner, who has opened up the museum to the outside world. Excellent choice and placement of Regency figures, although you still have the tendency to oversaturate dresses. And is it just me, or does the woman facing us have a surprisingly small head? I’m not sure I agree about the railings, as removing them does leave the upper floor rather bare. There’s much to like here, but I do have to take issue with your ceramics cabinet. Specifically, relating to the top shelf. There are four issues: the side of the shelf should be sloping down, not up, which means we should see the underside; the rightmost pot is overhanging the shelf, which would make it stick out through the glass; when looking up at a pot on a surface that's sloping due to the angle of view, the top of the pot itself should be concave but never sloping with the surface; and the glass has no reflections:



Normally I wouldn’t go into this level of nitpicking-fixes but, as a detail man, I thought you’d appreciate it. Do say if I’ve overstepped the mark.

Posted on 05/04/24 10:27:39 AM
Mariner
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Re: Challenge 998: Back to the museum
Steve, you were a bit late this week. I hope you are well.

Steve wrote
...Normally I wouldn’t go into this level of nitpicking-fixes but, as a detail man, I thought you’d appreciate it. Do say if I’ve overstepped the mark.


No, you haven't overstepped the mark. I have always preferred honest criticism to routine praise. I thought I could get away without adding reflections to the glass (which you have done very nicely)

...Specifically, relating to the top shelf. There are four issues: the side of the shelf should be sloping down, not up, which means we should see the underside...


Quite right. I missed all that.

One thing that you did not mention, and I only spotted it after I had published, is that there are two suns: one is shining on the upstairs window, and the other on the doorway dandy.

Still, all in all, I consider this the most time consuming and best picture I have ever done.

Thank you for your critique.


Posted on 05/04/24 10:52:26 AM
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Re: Challenge 998: Back to the museum
Steve Caplin wrote:
(Do whales do that? Or are you thinking of dolphins?)


Given the generally dodgy standard of the plaster modelling I suspect the model maker had no better idea of that than I.

And standing against an incinerator sounds like a bad idea.


Ha Haa! I never spotted the unintentional double entendre there! It's quite genuine and came ready made with the newspaper front page.

I did enjoy this one. Thanks Steve.

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Posted on 05/04/24 12:17:14 PM
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Mariner wrote:
Steve, you were a bit late this week. I hope you are well.



It took me a long time to fix your cabinet!


I thought I could get away without adding reflections to the glass (which you have done very nicely)



Oh no, that was a rush job. If you’d seen the full image you'd know that the reflection doesn’t match the women anywhere near well enough.



Still, all in all, I consider this the most time consuming and best picture I have ever done.



It was very good!

Posted on 05/04/24 12:25:53 PM
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Steve Caplin wrote:

I couldn’t read the display card in GKB's entertaining construction, but I do like the centaur – and, indeed, the anatomical figures in the cases nearby. A few anomalies: the glazing bars of the case should be in front of the skeleton; why does the skeleton still have knees; and why is the man gazing at the empty corner of the case, rather than at the centaur?


I kept debating whether or not the bars were on the glass or behind on the panelling. eventually I decided that they were on the glass - and then forgot to switch on that particular layer when posting.




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Posted on 05/04/24 12:28:50 PM
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Thanks Steve, sorry about that, had glass added at one point and then made some adjustments and overlooked putting it back in.
A classic case of bulging eyes.

Posted on 05/04/24 4:03:42 PM
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Re: Challenge 998: Back to the museum
Steve Caplin wrote:

I don’t know what caused lwc's conflagration...


I've been very busy the past two weeks and had no good ideas that hadn't already been made by others. When that happens, I throw a bunch of effects at it so I can say I didn't miss one... Thanks Steve!


Posted on 05/04/24 10:00:27 PM
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Thank you Steve for your kind comments, I really enjoyed this one. The object in the first image is a medical device for treating hysteria, developed to stop doctors from developing Carpal tunnel syndrome.

The young girl is kneeling in front of the tank. I will revisit the image to see if I can make it more realistic.

Posted on 07/04/24 06:57:58 AM
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Many thanks, Steve.

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