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Posted on 21/07/06 00:18:28 AM |
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eyal fitoussi
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
here is an easy way to fix perspective problems... 
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Posted on 21/07/06 00:19:19 AM |
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eyal fitoussi
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
thank you tom for your tips i already downloaded some of the plug ins you told me, they are great. |
Posted on 21/07/06 05:29:28 AM |
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David Urquhart
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
After breakthrough experiments with the worlds largest super collider, they have for the first time created a black hole in a lab condition, here we can see for the first time an electron with a radius below its Schwarschild radius giving the event horizon. it appears though Hawkings theories on information being lost are all wrong, there is an abundance of info in the form of a hyper dimensional supersymetry phone box. It also now poses sciences biggest question, ' what's in the box? '   _________________ Corners are just bent straight bits. |
Posted on 21/07/06 09:21:31 AM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Some most entertaining entries this week - and I'm particularly pleased that so many of you managed to open the door to the phone box without any trouble! Perspective was an issue this week, though. The key to it is first finding the horizon line, which is easily done - just trace any pair of horizontals and that's where they'll meet: 
Of course, when you now look at the bars between the window panes, you can see that those nearest to the horizon are almost flat, as you'd expect. So you could guess where the horizon is without drawing these lines. The task was complicated by the fact that I'd stood very close to the phone box to take the photograph, which means that unless it's placed in the foreground of any composition it will look unnaturally pointy. First to drop his coin in the slot was mguyer, with Superman popping up on a deserted highway. The blur and puff of smoke are a little at odds with each other here; they seem to go in different directions. I think the only real solution would be to paint in whoosh lines with a soft brush, continuing the colours from Superman in a curve to the phone box. Good concept, though. And a great pop art effect in the second entry! An entertaining idea from james, using the boxes to transport aliens - a neat touch. Watch that horizon thing, though! It's not so much of an issue with the flying boxes, but the one on the ground is too low for comfort. An entertaining second entry! A psychedelic line-up from Dave, with our phone boxes lurching out into space. I like the chorus line effect, but it seems a shame they're all drifting down to the left - although I can see why that would happen, given the shape of the box. Simply solution: select all the layers, and shear upwards! A lot of work must have gone into the second entry, and it's paid off: a novel idea, well realised. A truly wonderful entry from vibeke, with a correct placement of the horizon (hurrah!) and a beautifully opened door. The pose of the girl with the sword, the half-hidden giant scorpion, and the subtle showing of Superman just in the frame are all excellent. The only thing I'd have done would be to add some glass to that door; otherwise, this is a great piece of work! A new member this week - and Keiko has jumped straight in with a bold attempt to correct the perspective on the phone box to fit her scene. This is really, really close - just a fraction wider overall and it would have been perfect. I really like the soldier inside the box! Great first entry, Keiko - and welcome to the forum! More beautiful work from Tom, as we've come to expect. I don't know if you've checked out his website, but Tom's an artist - as in, the kind of person who paints in oils with no Undo key. And it really shows in his Photoshop work: stunning textures, fantastic composition, tremendous sense of light and shade. This one has so many extra details: the shading of the bars on the egg, the lit up Telephone signs, the crash of lightning on the roof, the subtle reflection in the water. Stunning! A great idea, really well executed, from eyal fitoussi. Excellent bulging on that phone box, and I particularly like both the broken panes of glass and the broken glass on the ground in front. You and your sister look a little low in contrast next to that gloriously bright Sumo wrestler, though! Seriously, this is great work - you're getting better and better, Eyal! And I do like the perspective solution in the second entry. A fantastic cityscape from David Urquhart, who has blended the phone box beautifully into the background. This is certainly one way of making sense of that extreme perspective! It's very close here, but needs a little more tweaking. The side facing us needs to shear down very slightly so that all the horizontals are pointing at the horizon. Otherwise, fantastic job - especially the reflection of the side building in the glass of the phone box! And a great graphic second entry. A glorious scene from Deborah Morley, with a fantastic set of shadows of both the box and the expertly opened door. Particularly good is the way the shadows bend over the basking cat: that must have taken some time! The shading on the shadow side of the phone box is a really neat touch, it sets the scene off really well. Good job! The horizon level is spot on in Paul2812's post, and although the cyberman's eyes are seemingly right (they're on the horizon line) he does look rather too low in the frame. I must have been crouching when I took the photo: the cyberman needs to tower over us! An interesting pastel feel to the whole image, though. Looks like Pauline's getting her whole family involved in these Challenges. Great poses, well arranged. You're right about the phone box having a solid back, so casting a solid shadow; but at the angle you're drawn it, half the box should show the shadow of the light through two sets of window panes. Crikey! Now there's a challenge! A thoroughly coherent, convincing montage from Pierre, with only the hint of a Mini (albeit with a broken headlight) this week. This is a totally coherent piece of work: if you didn't know the original image, you'd be hard pressed to tell which elements had been montaged into this picture. A fantastic example of photorealism. An absolutely stunning entry from Wayne, with a truly gorgeous piece of work: the door falling off its hinges, the dirty and broken glass, the pose of the skeleton, and such details as the (correct type of) telephone receiver on the ground, and the grass poking up over the base of the box. This is fantastic job, Wayne, and one that deservedly wins you a title. So, let's see: given your occupation, I think it just has to be Printer's Devil, wouldn't you say? Congratulations on a fine entry. Some interesting experiments with perspective, from Pierre and Deborah Morley. The extreme viewpoint does mean that the front and side of the box have to be adjusted independently! Still, Pierre did manage to crack the problem with a tour-de-force piece of composition! That old phone-box stuffing routine certainly appealed to Neal, although you might want to choose less bulky clothing for future attempts at the world record. Mind you, starting by filling the bottom half of the box with midgets is certainly a good first move. There's loads going on in raffy's nautical entry, with great typography, a neat pirate hat on the cat, and a real sense of action overall. The door's a little peculair, but otherwise this is excellent work! I like the gold phone box in michael sinclair's entry, although I do feel that removing the toilet immediately behind the phone box would have helped the realism here. And shouldn't we be able to see through the rear windows? A spooky film poster from salfordnurse, with a neatly removed phone box lid. That lid would have made a great hat for the jack in the box! still, no complaints about the placement of that horizon on this one. Good work, everyone! |
Posted on 21/07/06 1:19:21 PM |
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raffy
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Thanks,Steve!SuperKong had a heck of a time getting that door off,so he decided to rip it off instead-gave it a new twist,you might say! _________________ Dogs have masters;Cats have staff. |
Posted on 21/07/06 2:18:38 PM |
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pauline
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Tom congratulations on earning your title! Great work. Steve I struggled with those shadows. Originally I had the side showing in the shadow and didn't like the look of it. I am a very visual person and since there are no phone booths around here I really couldn't get an idea of the type of shadow needed. It was a great lesson though. I am learning so much doing these challenges. _________________ Pauline |
Posted on 21/07/06 3:11:37 PM |
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Paul2812
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Thanks for the comments, I know I have a long way to go but I am enjoying the ride so to speak |
Posted on 21/07/06 5:43:03 PM |
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Dave
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Steve, Thanks for your comments, the entries from Wayne & Pierre were brilliant, well thought out and executed. |
Posted on 21/07/06 6:42:22 PM |
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mguyer
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Steve, I am trying to wrap my brain around this perspective thing. Are you say that the green line in your example needs to be at the horizon or just parallel to the horizon. In my post there is an actualy horizon. Thanks. Marty |
Posted on 21/07/06 9:50:33 PM |
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Wayne
Printer’s Devil Posts: 312 Reply  |
Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Phew! Thanks Steve, and thanks everybody. The standard of work here is so high, I can only admire the imaginitive entries you all come up with week after week. I'll try my best to live up to my new title! |
Posted on 21/07/06 11:25:19 PM |
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vibeke
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Thanks Steve. You are absolutly right about the glass, was working so hard on the perspective. It is so important and hard to get it right. Had a look at tom's website, beautiful paintings, as someone who is learning to paint I can really appreciate his art. |
Posted on 23/07/06 05:22:36 AM |
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Tom
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
Thanks for looking, vibeke. Hey Steve, thanks for the compliments and the perspective demo. Much appreciated. |
Posted on 23/07/06 9:17:22 PM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: Contest 105: What's in the box?
The green line is the horizon, Marty! That's why the perspective lines all point to it. Understanding this effect really is key to getting a composition to work! Imagine you're looking at a brick house, one wall facing you, the other going away at 90 degrees: 
In the wall around the corner, some of the lines of bricks are going up, some down. Only one line is exactly parallel to the top and bottom of the frame: 
The reason this line is dead straight is because it's at your eye level. The bricks here are neither above nor below your eyeline. And, as we know, your eyes are always on a level with the horizon. So that's where the horizon must go in our picture: 
Putting it anywhere else is simply wrong: 
Hope this helps! Let's get this thing nailed! |
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