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Posted on 21/07/10 12:53:09 PM
josephine harvatt
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Re: Challenge 309: Half fill the glass
Have fun Jota!!!

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Posted on 21/07/10 12:54:00 PM
josephine harvatt
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Nice one James!



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Posted on 21/07/10 5:42:21 PM
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Here I am after a loooong break. I was busy practicing the book HTCIP. I am almost done.(It was so much fun Steve,I can start all over again). I still have a long way to go but I feel like I can let go of the sidewalk and step on the street Thanks for that confidence Steve.

Here is my coke. Cheers!



Posted on 22/07/10 1:55:27 PM
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Posted on 22/07/10 3:00:05 PM
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Re: Challenge 309: Half fill the glass
Thank you josephine.

Posted on 22/07/10 6:21:59 PM
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Posted on 22/07/10 10:17:03 PM
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Posted on 22/07/10 11:26:48 PM
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Re: Challenge 309: Half fill the glass
Again no time this week




Posted on 23/07/10 08:41:22 AM
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Re: Challenge 309: Half fill the glass
There's been an interesting and, to me, unexpected split in the approach to this week's puzzle, and it's to do with the perspective of the glass. Some assumed we were looking down on the top from above, others that we were looking up at it. The photographers should have realised that, photographed from the deckchair, it would inevitably entail a wide-angle view of the glass, giving the exaggerated perspective which means we're looking up at the top, but down at the bottom.

No Coke in GKB's glass, but a tasteful block of ice and slice of lemon. I particularly like the Coca-Cola logo embossed on the side, and the way it bends around the glass: but it should rise, not dip, in the middle. I like the second entry, in which we're clearly looking up at the top of the glass: the straw, refracted through the Coke, is an excellent touch, and great bubbles. Have to say, though, that's one mighty dense lemon you have in there.

A very full glass from Ben Mills, with a neat slice of lemon and a neatly highlit stamp. No bubbles, but a rather fine froth on the top. But we should be looking up at it rather than down (see below).

A very neat half-full glass from James, with a refracted straw and a clever meniscus at the edges. Those bubbles, though, have more of the feel of an asteroid field to them. More of them, and smaller, perhaps? I like the animated version, in which the glass tilts back to be drunk through the straw - clever manipulation of the surface and the ice cube, and a particularly neat rendering of that tricky view of the hand pressed against the other side of the glass. I'm assuming you didn't model this one yourself...

Fine work from vibeke, who has taken "cheating" to the extent of photographing a real glass of Coke and inserting it in the image - and why not. I like the way the stamp has been brought out, but there's the same problem with the angle of view (see below). And what's the green? Surely they don't put cucumber in Coke in NZ? I like the hand-made second entry, with rather find bubbles - but they really do all need to be spherical, though. Neat lemon! I like the adjusted perspective in the third entry. But has the Coke turned into Cherry Coke?

A novel slice of lime from tooquilos, with a very convincing glass of Coke - actually, more of a glass of ice with a little Coke around the edges (I hate it when restaurants do that). Excellent pouring action in the animated version: I really like the way the froth builds up and then dies down. A cleverly extended garden, too, with some good lawn mowing going on.

Clever work from brewell, clearly not a Coke fan - the bubbles (and beautiful bubbles they are, too) form a skull beneath the lemon. Terrific coke colour and ice, a really strong job.

A perfectly half-filled glass from LonnieK, the surface of the Coke almost exactly at eye height. I like the condensation on the glass, but is there an overall greenish tint in the ice? Should there be?

A very convincing glass from Nick Curtain, correctly looking up at the glass top. I like the density of the coke, and I'm intrigued by the erotic ice cubes. The bubbles are a little too small and too pale, though: in a glass of Coke they're always very strong.

Beautiful work from Josephine Harvatt, with a photographed glass of Coke very nicely inserted into our glass. A perfect match for the perspective of the original shot - good cheat!

A clever job from Carlo Alessandro Della Valle, with hand-drawn Coke and ice cubes, and a bendy straw sticking out of the top. A very interesting approach to the straw seen through the glass: it ripples and distorts with flaws in the surface of the glass. I like this approach, but would this really happen? Fantastic refraction of the background, though, and a great colour on the Coke.

Fantastic work from Jota120, with a refracting straw that bends neatly behind the rim of the glass, and a great refracted view of the background. I like the added CAMRA logos, although the logo for Salisbury Plain rather baffles me. Just the one thing, though: have you ever seen Coke, Trevor?

A three-quarters full glass from Emvee, with nicely drawn bubbles - but a lot more needed. I like the straw, and the froth on the top, and bringing the stamp to the front works very well. But watch the perspective on the glass (see below).

Very tasty work from Steve Mac, with neat ice cubes and a good shade of brown for the Coke. I like the way the bubbles rise in streams - a good observation. The surface of the Coke seems a little too wavy, though: I think you'll find there's very little tide in a Coke.

A serene and rather beautiful glass from Deborah Morley, with a perfect meniscus on the Coke and excellent reflections. Best thing here is the way the slice of lemon fades off into the distance - utterly convincing. And I do like you ice cubes, even if they are just a touch too opaque.

A glass of rather flat Coke from Emil - where have all the bubbles gone? Very convincing work, though, with just a couple of bubbles right at the front, and a neatly floating ice cube. Again, though, there's the angle of view problem - see below.

A well-filled glass from michael sinclair, with the innovation of condensation on the outside of the glass - a nice idea. But once again there's the angle of view issue: we're actually looking up at the top (see below). Do watch those sharp corners at the side of the Coke, on the right!

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The most obvious problem this week was the angle of view, with some of you seeing it one way, some the other. It's one of those gestalts where we can make the mind flip back and forth:



But as was pointed out, look at the scratch at the top, on the left: this clearly shows which is the front of the glass, and which is the back.

So how did the "real thing" (ha ha) actually look? Like this:



Rather more bubbles than we might expect. And as I said in my introduction, I was struck by the way the sunlight came through the Coke - in particular, by the way the light produced a rather fine focussed reflection on the arm of the chair. The ice, of course, has long since melted.

This was a surprisingly tricky Challenge, so congratulations for even having attempted it. Just remember: lemons float, ice melts.

Posted on 23/07/10 08:55:14 AM
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Re: Challenge 309: Half fill the glass
Thanks Steve.
By the way, is that a tiny white mouse swimming half way up your glass of Coke?


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Posted on 23/07/10 08:56:47 AM
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Thank you Steve - I had to add in the bubbles and a bit of colour but otherwise I struck very lucky - google is my friend!

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Posted on 23/07/10 08:59:46 AM
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Thank you Steve.

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Posted on 23/07/10 08:59:52 AM
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Thanks Steve
Have to say that I never drink the stuff, but decided to attempt creating it from memory and the 'real thing' is lighter than I'd expected. I tried to create the sun effect by overlaying 2 hard light copies of the glass area above a colour fill layer set to multiply.

I had not even noticed the 'erotic' nature of the ice cubes, which were drawn using your glass of water technique. My original bubbles were brighter, but they looked wrong somehow. I did think about buying and photographing some Coke, but your 100% photoshop book has encouraged me to try and create more from scratch. Perhaps I should stick to photography!!

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Posted on 23/07/10 09:38:41 AM
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Re: Challenge 309: Half fill the glass
Thanks Steve, learn a lot from this one. No we don't put cucumber in our coke, it's the trees reflecting in the coke (entry 1).
And entry 3, coke is so light because so much ice melted, while I was trying to figure the perspective. LOL

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Posted on 23/07/10 10:14:43 AM
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Re: Challenge 309: Half fill the glass
The take-away lesson for me on this one is that the shading on the bubbles changes ever so slightly from one side of the glass to the other. I warped my shadow layer and then added a bit of color in the center.

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Posted on 23/07/10 6:14:06 PM
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Re: Challenge 309: Half fill the glass
Thanks Steve. The tide thing was pretty funny.


Posted on 24/07/10 12:18:03 PM
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Thank you Steve.

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