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Posted on 07/10/10 06:08:47 AM |
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Stefano Giacomuzzi
Modernist Maestro Posts: 146 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Fantastic entry Daniel and welocme to the forum. _________________ Stefano |
Posted on 07/10/10 1:51:05 PM |
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Eva Roth
Luminous Liberator Posts: 269 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thank you Gordon! |
Posted on 07/10/10 4:47:10 PM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Welcome Daniel. Great first FC entry 
I was having a very similar idea for a second this week. Glad you have done it before I even started working on it !
Calmed down with this more (too?) subtle one.  |
Posted on 07/10/10 6:24:25 PM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Love the rabbits Trevor!  |
Posted on 07/10/10 8:04:39 PM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thanks Deborah!: love the bike in there with the guys, very subtle image, meanings I think......... And if I might say very subtle removing of the railings for the war effort. Misted that before.. And welcome Monkeywing :)Very interesting |
Posted on 07/10/10 9:38:40 PM |
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Emil
KAFKAsFRIEND Posts: 413 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Really nice first entries from Daniel and Monkeywing. Welcome here. Here is my Very quick attempt. 
_________________ I have the true feeling of myself only when I am unbearably unhappy. - Franz Kafka |
Posted on 08/10/10 04:21:08 AM |
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Daniel
Poser Professor Posts: 192 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Stefano, Trevor and Emil, Thanks so much for the warm welcome and the nice comments. Trevor, I find it fascinating when people (or groups of people) come up with similar solutions for solving a problem. Even more fascinating is when the solutions are not just similar (in their generic form) but almost identical in their smallest implemented details. I guess if large corporation would accept that neurons in people’s brains could sometimes (at least every now and then) follow the same path, they would stop suing each other over patent dispute (as Microsoft is doing these days with Motorola). |
Posted on 08/10/10 08:19:20 AM |
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Emil
KAFKAsFRIEND Posts: 413 Reply |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
NICK and ANNA, I especially love the night scene with Spitfire (I hope)? Really great work Nick. Anna, your animation is faultless, also great work. _________________ For me the creative process is more one of discovery than creation. - James Lee Burke |
Posted on 08/10/10 08:40:24 AM |
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Nick Curtain
Model Master Posts: 1768 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thanks Emil In fact, it's a Sea Hurricane, which I snapped at Old Warden a week last Saturday. Apparently it's the last one flying. Nick |
Posted on 08/10/10 08:46:16 AM |
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Steve Caplin
Administrator Posts: 7047 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Some very interesting ideas this week. Of course, the perspective is a tricky one - but then you'd expect that from me, wouldn't you. Those of you who tried to open the doors must have found it a particularly difficult task. First up was Gerard, who has taken off the upper floors so we can see the Spitfire flying overhead. I like the lettering over the door, and the poster on the wall is a good fit: the hanging sign, though, shows rather more extreme perspective than we need from this angle. Surprising how well the building works as a single storey! A cunning disguise for the White Rabbit in Eggbox's post, with a fine period taxi waiting outside (no driver, though?). I like the angle of the opened door, although it's perhaps a little too long. Since we're now viewing the grille from the other side, as it were, flipping the door horizontally first would have made this job much easier! A splendid aged photo from Stefano Giacomuzzi, with a well-opened door and good angles on the brickwork inside. One thing about the photo effect: add the inner border before you roughen the outer edges, to avoid the border bumping inwards in that way. A strong portrait from Josephine Harvatt, with an appropriate figure in a trenchcoat and some rather beautifully drawn smoke. I like the overall treatment, but the strong yellow tint is a little overwhelming - even by Jack Vettriano's standards! Extraordinary work from tooquilos, who has followed the white rabbit down the Alice in Wonderland route and built the house into the roots of a tree, Magnificent! So much detail! Note the way the texture wraps around the door reveal, the neatly replaced railing, the new name for the building, the half-hidden Cheshire Cat and the caterpillar's hookah. And where on earth did you find so many poses of a white rabbit in the animated version? Nick Curtain has our Wing Commander parking his plane right outside his front door. A fine night scene, with illumination both from the lamp over the door and a nicely lit-up interior: I like the way the lighting has been carried on through to the plane. A rather strange angle on the plane itself, though: is it leaning up too much? A different secret agent entirely from tomiloi, who has given the whole image a James Bond theme. I really like the way the 007 logo has been adapted to incorporate a rabbit! If you're going to go for the sepia effect, though, it should perhaps be applied to everything in the scene: I'm not sure picking out some elements in different colours helps it all to blend together. Alice's White Rabbit makes a guest appearance in Ben Mills's entry - and he does fit rather well. Not sure about the canvas texture, though: it might have been better to use the Sketch filter to try to make the background match the style of the Tenniel drawing, do you think? A seriously aged photo from Carlo Alessandro Della Valle, fully degraded and burnt away. I like the overall colouring, but the edges are too crisp: we should see a little of the underlying structure of the paper as the edges are ripped away. The guard seems a little short for the size of the door, I think. A couple of typical spies in Vibeke's post - a fine pair of bowler-hatted agents. Their clothes - particularly the waistcoat and watch chain - could place them at any time over the last fifty years. I would take you to task for being the only one so far to leave the blue plaque on the wall - but the woman on her mobile phone suggests that this isn't a historical image after all. Really clever work from brewell, with a neatly opened door (although I would have flipped the grille horizontally first, for a better angle of view), a well-chosen spy peering around it, and an entertaining poster on the wall. The most extraordinary thing, though, is the way the entire building has been extended off to the left: it's such a seamless job I had to look twice before I realised what you'd done. Incredible work - and the passers-by do conceal the awkward railings perfectly! A magnificent first Challenge entry from monkeywing, who has created a fantastic night scene: the lit-up door interior and upper windows are beautifully achieved, with notable details such as the lit edges of the window surround, the shady figure outside, and of course the silhouette of the rabbit upstairs. An interesting fog effect, too. The lamp over the door could perhaps cast a little more illumination over nearby surfaces, but that's the only minor issue (although if I were an Air Raid Patrol warden during wartime I might have others). Superb work - welcome to the forum! No sign of a white rabbit but michael sinclair, off topic as ever, begins with a tricky opened door. Hmm... a difficult one to get right, and this is nearly there. The right door works, the left is just too long for the angle of view. Quite how Adolf Hitler fits into the scene in the second entry is frankly beyond me - and I'm just as confused by his positioning. His feet are on a level with the top step, but he's floating above the second. And why on earth would you ever Merge Visible? Keep those layers editable, Michael! A few family memories from Jota120, with his father and aunt projected onto the side of the building. Not sure why they appear twice, or exactly how they're supposed to end up there - or, indeed, why the lamp over the door has gained a purple nucleus. Off topic? Trevor? Surely not. A very dapper spy in the second entry - but watch the width and angles on those opened doors. A cute rabbit motif at the top of the pillars! An assortment of luminous white rabbits, and a couple of clear spies, from Eva Roth. The real work here, however, is in the way the awkward perspective of the building has been completely removed: it's now fully squared-up and rectilinear. Very neatly accomplished! A range of animated rabbits from James - all of whom get doors and windows opened as they dash through them. The two at the bottom are from Alice in Wonderland and, I think, Peter Rabbit - but for me, Bugs Bunny will win out every time. Classy work! Our second new member this week is Daniel, with a fantastic scene of the building ablaze. A perfectly extended building, with a terrific sense of destruction: and I like all the added detail, such as the period telephone box and the propeller of the crashed Spitfire in the foreground. Superb work, Daniel! As for critique... well, there's really very little to say, just a few very minor points. The lit side of the phone box should have an orange rather than white glow, to reflect the flames; the box is too low in the scene for the perspective to work properly; the broken-away rendering on the far right is just too neat-edged. But these really are very, very minor observations: this is a fantastic first entry. Welcome to the forum! An atmospheric entry from Deborah Morley, literally so - the added fog adds a sense of place and time. I can see why the fog should lie between the motorcyclist and the man in front, but shouldn't there be at least a little fog in front of him as well? WIthout it, he becomes pushed too far to the foreground. Very neatly removed railings! And I'm sure I've seen that sign over the door before somewhere. A well-made historical photo from Emil, pinned down to a point in history by the clothing of the man out front. The only thing that seems inappropriate is the style of the Flying School sign: that lettering is out of keeping for the period. Of course, it would also be tricky to run a successful flying school in central London. ++++++++++++++ I've mentioned a couple of times this week about how the grille in the door needs to be flipped when the door is opened. This is what I mean. In the example below, the doors have been opened using Free Transform, as usual. With the version on the left, the grille on the left-hand door has been distorted along with the door itself. But whereas the visible edges of the grille were on the right when the door was closed, now it's open the visible edges are on the left. This makes the grille look wrong. It's an easy matter to select the grille and flip it horizontally, distorting it into place to produce the second image, on the right. It's a subtle difference, but it is one that's worth considering.  |
Posted on 08/10/10 09:15:45 AM |
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vibeke
Kreative Kiwi Posts: 2166 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thanks Steve, the fact that you didn't mention my perspective, does that mean I got it right for a change? _________________ Perfect confidence is granted to the less talented as a consolation prize. |
Posted on 08/10/10 09:21:33 AM |
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Nick Curtain
Model Master Posts: 1768 Reply |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thanks Steve Re your comment - "A rather strange angle on the plane itself, though: is it leaning up too much?" - The Hurricane, when parked, does sit in this way, having a tiny wheel at the tail, which raises at the plane rotates. The plane was as shot by me last weekend. My problem was deciding how high it would appear in relation to the building, allowing for the height of the steps. The leading edge of the wing is about chest / shoulder height, so I think it's placed about right. Nick |
Posted on 08/10/10 09:22:21 AM |
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Emil
KAFKAsFRIEND Posts: 413 Reply |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thanks Steve, exactly, the sign is out of period, I did not think about it any second. Fast work from my side but worth advise from you. Thank you. _________________ For me the creative process is more one of discovery than creation. - James Lee Burke |
Posted on 08/10/10 10:56:35 AM |
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Eggbox
Ovoid Opportunist Posts: 797 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thank you Steve, The driver was at the rear of the taxi either about to open the door or having closed it depending if the passenger is coming or going. As for the house door .... it is always those tiny details which make or marr. |
Posted on 08/10/10 11:17:14 AM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2905 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thank you Nick and Emil and Steve many thank also. I enjoyed this one very much.
With the rabbit images, as well as a lot of other images I use in my FC's..they are from Digital Juice - Photo Knockouts Collection. I wouldn't be without them ! http://www.digitaljuice.com/products/products.asp?pid=1114 _________________ Dorothy: "there's no place like home!" |
Posted on 08/10/10 11:21:38 AM |
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josephine harvatt
Gag Gadgeteer Posts: 2603 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Yes - I was going for cream but as I lost time with the quickfilter fiasco I didn't have time to fine tune - the face is actually that of the man himself grafted onto Humphrey Bogart! _________________ I'm not really bad - I just draw that way |
Posted on 08/10/10 11:58:04 AM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thanks again Steve, in retrospect I was also having an issue with the right opened door after sent, should be wider, but ran out of time, but nice to get the critique  .
Me "off topic", surely not  especially when have secret SOE agents involved, say no more.
The dapper guy is my granddad. Well might as well get some more family involved. At least I did not bomb the place, which is entrenched after my wider family's experience. My heart for all victims, all sides and what has, and continues. Thanks to Daniel for saving me from that. The light became a Purple Heart. Have a good weekend all.... |
Posted on 08/10/10 12:05:20 PM |
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brewell
Pixel Pentagrammarian Posts: 752 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Yes, I admit it, I like working with perspective and the ancient art of cut and paste. Thanks for illustrating the flipped grille - one more point for fake authenticity. _________________ Is it necessary? Does it work? |
Posted on 08/10/10 4:01:55 PM |
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Daniel
Poser Professor Posts: 192 Reply |
Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thanks a lot Steve. I really appreciate your comments. You are absolutely right about the phone’s location and shading. As for the broken-away rendering, I guess I am still not completely comfortable with the pen tool, so I use polygonal lasso tool too often and that makes too neat edges as you mention. I have to admit that I also made several attempts to add some smoke to the scene and tried the technique from your book (pages 174 and 175), but I couldn’t make it work!! |
Posted on 08/10/10 8:29:17 PM |
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monkeywing
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Re: Challenge 320: The White Rabbit
Thanks for the encouraging comments and the critique will help no end! I love the cloud filter - it gives a 'je ne sais quoi' or sometimes even a 'je ne sais porquoi' effect .. |
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