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Posted on 26/01/11 4:40:26 PM |
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Ben Mills
Luminous Luminary Posts: 570 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Well spotted James, I don't get the chance to wear my best suit (and hat) very often. 
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Posted on 26/01/11 4:49:21 PM |
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Ben Mills
Luminous Luminary Posts: 570 Reply |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Thank you Dejá_vu |
Posted on 26/01/11 7:24:32 PM |
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LonnieK
Diorama Dreamer Posts: 238 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Thank you Deborah. I think you did quite well. Perhaps Nick looks like Leo. Who knows? _________________ Lonnie |
Posted on 26/01/11 7:43:19 PM |
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Garfield72
Montage Manceau Posts: 353 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Hello, I tried to create hair on a face, but I was not satisfied with the result. so I made a montage by redrawing the original image. How do I create realistic hair? Must you use the preset brushes or copy pieces of hair on a photo? excuse me if my English is not good  |
Posted on 26/01/11 8:25:18 PM |
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emanuelefrau
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Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Leonardo and the Louvre.  _________________ italian Photoshopper |
Posted on 26/01/11 8:26:05 PM |
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emanuelefrau
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Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Leo Zeppelin: fun version  _________________ italian Photoshopper |
Posted on 26/01/11 8:57:51 PM |
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Ben Mills
Luminous Luminary Posts: 570 Reply |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Smoking can damage your health...  |
Posted on 27/01/11 03:00:03 AM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
What a lot of great entries, just commenting on recent, I love Led Zep and fine Emanuel, your Navy Cut looks great to me Ben and what a great idea, I sort of know that from my dad and family. So oops, excuse me, I take theme back the other direction and think what he was thinking .... P.O.?  |
Posted on 27/01/11 5:26:21 PM |
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laddition
femme fatale Posts: 585 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Rhooo, Steve, c'est trop dur, cette semaine! Alors moi, je me suis imaginée De Vinci au bout du rouleau, ne supportant plus ce monde, et bradant ses oeuvres dans la rue pour pouvoir aller vivre de l'élevage de chèvres sur la plateau du Larzac!   _________________ Mais je me connais, je lâcherais pas l'affaire.... Je vais piquer de grève comme on pique une colère... Plus têtue que tous les vieil homme et la mer... Pour que continue le combat ordinaire! |
Posted on 27/01/11 8:27:19 PM |
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Sophie
Political Parodist Posts: 595 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
I agree with you laddition, very hard. I had a quick try at it last weekend with poor results. Love your work Ben and Emanuele. Not sure I have time now. |
Posted on 27/01/11 8:39:41 PM |
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Emil
KAFKAsFRIEND Posts: 413 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
As always really great entries from everyone. Here is my quick try. 
_________________ I have the true feeling of myself only when I am unbearably unhappy. - Franz Kafka |
Posted on 27/01/11 10:02:45 PM |
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emanuelefrau
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Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Thank Jota and Sophie _________________ italian Photoshopper |
Posted on 27/01/11 11:34:29 PM |
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Sophie
Political Parodist Posts: 595 Reply |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Very last minute, sorry Steve. Had to have a go.  |
Posted on 28/01/11 08:40:53 AM |
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Steve Caplin
Administrator Posts: 7047 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
This was another very tricky Challenge, and I'm hugely impressed at the skill and inventiveness shown by all who attempted it. First to bring Leonardo to life was GKB, with recoloured skin, new eyes and mouth, and a rather splendid crop of hair. The hair is, perhaps, a little too shampoo-shiny, and is certainly rather on the feminine side; it does make Leo look a little camp, I think. But it certainly showed everyone that the Challenge was indeed possible! And the second entry showed that there's more than one way to skin a helicopter. A very different approach from puffin31939, who has used blurring filters to soften the pen drawing before tinting. It's an effective technique, and bringing back the hard lines of the beard to add definition is especially successful. His head does seem a rather odd shape at the back, though. But overall this is a very fair approach, and the second entry adds a lot of realism. I love the date-stamp on the photo! More Hemingway than Da Vinci from Eva Roth, with a mottled skin texture overlaid on the line drawing, and a wholly new beard. Do you think he really was bald? Or did he just get bored with drawing his own hair? Two things: the texture on the head needs to wrap around the head (try spherizing a copy of it); and the angle of your horizon is making me seasick! Interesting work from Luis, whose photographic figure is a good likeness. Would it have been possible to distort the eyes and nose to match Leonardo's exactly? The only thing that bothers me here is the very 20th Century cap, which seems a little at odds with the period. What sort of hat would Da Vinci have worn? A rather comical entry from Josephine Harvatt, with a realistic Leonardo peering out from inside the line drawing. And it really works rather well: the features and wrinkles are all precisely in the right place. But is the skin a little too young-looking? I like the moving eyes and mouth in the animated version - very subtle! So you think Leonardo was toothless, eh? A suitably grumpy Leonardo from brewell, but then who could blame him: losing to Arcimboldo, of all people (an artist whose work I've always had a strong dislike for). I like the concept, but there's something artificial about the room: no shading, no sense of how the wall works. And since we're viewing this from a low perspective (Arcimboldo's certainly looking down at us) then Leonardo, being more in the foreground, should perhaps be a little higher in the frame. More Bernard Shaw than Da Vinci from Jota120 - although it's a fine crop of beard. I like the subtlety of this one, which seems more like an old hand-tinted photograph than a drawing. But is it my imagination, or has Leo got a squint? An interesting idea in the second entry, creating a rough drawing from Leonardo's original. This looks like it was done on real, old-fashioned paper, Trevor. A somewhat Santa Claus feel to vibeke's entry, with a recoloured face peering out from amongst a mass of dazzling white fur. I see what you're getting at, but the hair and beard are simply too bright for the darkness of the face: they overwhelm the image, which makes them look too artificial. Try adding some shading, on a new layer, both to tone the beard down and to add three dimensionality to it. Not sure about the sex change in the second entry, but applying the drawing's texture to the photograph is certainly a different approach! I'd never made the Leonardo-Willie Nelson connection before, but now that tooquilos has pointed it out you can't miss it. It's surprising how well the wrinkles and contours match, and that's a good job on recreating the shape of the nose. I like the album cover in the animated version, but I'm not sure about the mouth movement - looks more like he's blowing bubbles. An appropriately downbeat expression from Nick Curtain, with a somewhat Gandalf-inspired Leonardo - or is that Michael Gambon's Dumbledore in there? Thoroughly convincing hair and beard. But is that really how we have to view the Mona Lisa these days? Twenty feet away, behind a barrier? Art appreciation ain't what it used to be. There's a distinctly rustic flavour to Ben Mills' entry, with a thoroughly bucolic Da Vinci. It might have been interesting to use Liquify to reshape the nose, and perhaps tighten up those wrinkles a little. A very consistent, convincing image, though - and a rather beautiful portrait as well. So is that you inside the beard, Ben? I like the guest appearance in the cig packet in the second entry! A very interesting entry from Steve Mac, who has taken a very stark approach, fading the portrait away into a dark background. A good treatment, except there's a frown in the eyes and eyebrows here that doesn't match the serenity of the original: would we use Liquify to straighten out those eyebrows? Highly convincing work from LonnieK, with hair that strikes a neat balance between drawing and photograph, and skin tones that blend perfectly into it. Very good matching for the shape of the mouth and nose - in fact, I'm struck by the similarity of this image with your own avatar. A self portrait, perhaps? There's a rather medieval feel to sutex's entry, with a rather nicely reconstructed Leonardo on a period costume. I like the inclusion of his flying machine drawings in the background, but does the bird have a relevance? And is the head rather too large for the body, do you think? Very good colour and texture in the face - is this all generated directly from the drawing? Deborah Morley thinks her Leonardo looks like Nicholas Cage, and there is a bit of that feeling to it - although to me the hair and beard are more Charlton Heston's Moses. Whoever it is, he looks rather more worried than Leonardo's serene original would warrant: and is he perhaps just a little on the hirsute side? A rather good forest montage from Garfield72, in a reasonable alternative to the subject. I like the sense of translucency on the hanging banners, which look very firmly as if they're hanging from the trees. But the sign board is awkward: too bright, too highly saturated, it doesn't look as if it belongs here and distracts attention. And, given that it's at a fair distance from us, the perspective is too extreme for the scene. A very interesting entry from emanuelefrau, with a very subtly worked skin and a highly convincing beard. I really like the shading on the face, which adds a lot of texture and interest. But the colour of the face is no match for the colours of the background, even though the Louvre is a highly appropriate setting: if you want those colours in the face, you'd need to choose an evening scene for the background. I really like the second entry - Stairway to Firenze? I like laddition's image, with Leonardo reduced to selling cheap copies of his paintings. Mais pourquois ne sont les prix pas en euros? Et ou est le plateau du Larzac? J'aime ses lunettes, sa barbe et ses cheveux - vraiment, il n'est pas <un lapin hereux>, comme on dit en Angleterre. A thoroughly miserable Leonardo from Emil - although I'm not sure he was intended in that way. A great beard, but it doesn't feel as if it belongs with the skin: more colouring needed there, perhaps? And maybe move the eyes down a little, their current position certainly contributes to him looking so gloomy. Glad to see Sophie managed to work up an entry in the end - and it's a rather good piece of colouring and smoothing, with a nicely treated beard. The position of the image in the background is a little awkward, seeming to be looming over him: and those eyes need toning down a little, at present they jump out of the face. Is it just me, or does your Leonardo look a little chubbier than the original? Many congratulations to all of you. This was a hard Challenge, and its been good to see so many varied approaches and techniques. |
Posted on 28/01/11 08:47:22 AM |
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laddition
femme fatale Posts: 585 Reply |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Thank you so much, Steve! Le plateau du Larzac : http://www.jedecouvrelafrance.com/f-510.aveyron-larzac.html Et c'est là que les hippies français, ou ce qu'il en reste, rêvent d'aller finir leur vie, à faire des fromages de chèvres..... Quant à l'euro... J'ai pas trouvé la touche sur mon clavier! _________________ Mais je me connais, je lâcherais pas l'affaire.... Je vais piquer de grève comme on pique une colère... Plus têtue que tous les vieil homme et la mer... Pour que continue le combat ordinaire! |
Posted on 28/01/11 08:56:21 AM |
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Nick Curtain
Model Master Posts: 1768 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Thanks Steve and well spotted that it was Mr Gambon who provided the base image, which was cut into many pieces and distorted. I used the drawing as a template, to try and retain the character and placed pieces bit by bit to compile the final image. The character doesn't look like Gambon, so I think I've succeeded to some extent. I've never seen the Mona Lisa because we ran out of time on our trip to Paris, but the images I viewed would suggest that the public are kept well away from the painting. Nick |
Posted on 28/01/11 09:33:38 AM |
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josephine harvatt
Gag Gadgeteer Posts: 2603 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Thank you Stve - don't ask me what is going on with the animated version - it looks NOTHING like the toon I made _________________ I'm not really bad - I just draw that way |
Posted on 28/01/11 10:28:12 AM |
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tooquilos
Wizard of Oz Posts: 2905 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Thank you Steve. Im sure if Dan Brown had written another chapter in the Davinci Code..he would of made the Nelson/Davinci connection somehow  _________________ Dorothy: Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore |
Posted on 28/01/11 10:47:41 AM |
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sutex
Specular Specialist Posts: 157 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Yes, my intention was to come back to "Renaissance" and tried to think about auto self portrait of him, the only thing you can know about him is his painting and philosophy , you can see many people here took him as a painter only,I think there is more and is something magical(metaphysical) about kind of person who draw flying machines and dream about flaying and this is reason why this bird sat on his hand accidentally, the human kind got flaying from birds and people like Leonardo.
The face and hairs comes from drawing you gave us.I used background eraser to separate black lines of face and hairs,then, I made four layers for hairs only , moved slightly among to tighter effect and gave color and "hair cut" .Face,I used healing tool to remove some marks and color brush and shadows and changed his sad lips with liquid filter.I made his head smaller ,well, maybe should be bit more or its too much hairs making his head bigger but sometimes when you look at paint from particular historic period its seems that body proportions are slightly different - anyway thanks for correction on that one. His costume(apart chest texture and color) and hands are from Mona Lisa and his eyes comes from The Lady with an Ermine - all transformed and processed to aged .Red bird added .
I think when you look at this last one (The Lady with an Ermine) its an answer why my looks like that. Still don't know why Mona Lisa is liked among people.My answer is: only because is in Louvre and Louvre is in Paris and Paris is in France. 
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Posted on 28/01/11 11:33:40 AM |
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puffin31939
Montage Mariner Posts: 383 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 335: Developing Da Vinci
Thanks for the comments, Steve. I felt the beard in the first offering wasn't quite right. Fortunately CS5's bristle brushes came to the rescue in the second image. It was a great challenge and one I assumed was beyond me. It always amazes me how many different approaches there are to these challenges. _________________ Man cannot change the direction of the wind but he can adjust the sails |
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