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Posted on 13/06/12 3:01:51 PM
Jimbean
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Been in hospital all week so doing this has kept sane!!



Posted on 13/06/12 3:39:48 PM
Jota120
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Sorry to hear that Jim. Trust & hope you are getting better now? I'm not sure doing "this" keeps me sane, but that is my problem
A fine piece of work IMHO. I saw two swans (they pair/mate for life) flying over here the other day. My girlfriend from the past did not believe they flew! Well they do even though such big birds! Interesting to see them take off from the water, not fast until skipping feet leave water surface with plenty of vocals, I'd do same but I think their breast cavity, muscles much stronger than mine by my volume! I just whimper cycling up a hill!

No, really it does help and keeps one sane.

Good luck,
Trevor P



Posted on 13/06/12 6:58:06 PM
Garfield72
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Thank you Trevor.
I do not understand what happened to have two same messages.
When I sent my picture, I was told it was already on the forum, I renamed it and sent back and then two same messages

Posted on 13/06/12 7:05:13 PM
Jimbean
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Thanks Trevor appreciate your kind thoughts! Thought it was a heart attack but seems its Angina Yay!! (I think!!) It was good to have the challenge to do as I spent 6 days in hospital and would have gone mad if hadn't had something to pass the time with and take my mind off the needles, I hate them!! Home now though!!

Posted on 13/06/12 8:05:34 PM
Deborah Morley
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Thanks Artwel
A really nice comment Marki, thank you and welcome to the forum.
Not so sure about consistently good Trevor, but thanks.
Jim, hope you are soon 'released' from hospital and feeling good again

Posted on 13/06/12 11:43:35 PM
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Get better soon Jimbean and I hadn't seen your entry when I put swans in mine.



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Posted on 14/06/12 04:02:42 AM
Deb Raskin
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I hear that HotChiPs therapy is the perfect treatment for almost anything that ails you! Feel better Jim.

Posted on 14/06/12 05:59:13 AM
Deb Raskin
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Still under construction, looks like the original stone roof peak will have to be demolished from the inside, and when it is, don't walk out those doors yet!

Posted on 14/06/12 11:44:19 PM
Eva Roth
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sorry, no time to finish this week...



Posted on 15/06/12 01:41:11 AM
james
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http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/fungismith/watermill.gif

Posted on 15/06/12 02:46:06 AM
Artwel
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Not very exciting I'm afraid, I attempted an animation but there were 'problems' maybe be able to upload it later...





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Posted on 15/06/12 03:52:22 AM
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Animated Mill https://vimeo.com/44081399 it's a bit messy.

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Posted on 15/06/12 06:28:17 AM
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Spent too much time on the damn hair - so did this rush job just to submit something.



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Posted on 15/06/12 06:33:07 AM
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François........absolutely!

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Posted on 15/06/12 08:09:27 AM
Steve Caplin
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First to enter GKB's challenge was, er, GKB, with a splendid remodelling of the ruined mill: great water cascading from the water wheel, a beautifully renovated house, and plenty of extras (animals, ducks, a lawnmower and water butt - the washing line is a great touch). If the ducks produce reflections in the water, though, shouldn't the grass and stone banks also reflect?

A fine mill from Ant Snell, with a complete new pan tile roof (with roof light) and a good crop of wild flowers in the foreground. The bay window is a little small, though, and you do need to watch your shadow direction: the right side of the house is in shadow and the left is lit, so the shadow from your wheelbarrow should be coming toward us, not away.

A nicely restored cottage from tooquilos, with a wheel that's now purely decorative. Don't you think they'd have put in a path, or at least mown the lawn, up to the front door? A really splendid story of the mill's fall into disuse in the animated version - very moving stuff! Beautiful work.

A typically off-message entry from Jota120, with a couple of Chinese characters rather bizarrely sliding into the end wall. Been having fun with Layer Styles, Trevor? Clever work adapting the mill to fit a different building in the second entry - that's quite a cascading waterfall you have there! I'm not sure the sign in the third entry is enough to allay health and safety fears, though.

A subtle rebuilding from Garfield72, with my HotChiPs farmer tending his horses. I like the new roof, but the shadows are from the wrong direction: the shading on the house definitely comes from the left, so the roof and chimney shading do need to match this. I like the additions in the second entry, especially that hint of rainbow - but the shading on the sheep is on the wrong side. Better proportions in the third entry!

A fully working mill from Deborah Morley, with water pouring off the wheel and a roof that could do with a little attention. It seems the building is now a barn more than a mill, with cows wandering in and out of the door opening. I like the new water - but if we can see the reflection of the bank so clearly, shouldn’t we be able to see the reflection of the mill as well?

A neat reconstruction from Ben Boardman, with cascading water, a weir, and a thoughtfully restored building: the addition of the millstones and the sacks of freshly milled flour are very well-considered additions. There's also a perfectly handled reflection of the mill in the turbulent water - not showing any detail, but the colouring clearly defining its shape and position. This is very fine work indeed, Ben, and certainly good enough to earn you a title. I think Printing Pro seems appropriate to your profession. Good stuff.

I laughed out loud at Lorenzo1977's entry, with a magnificent cathedral roof crowning the full restored, working mill. It's a charming, idyllic scene, with gushing water and flowers. But you do need to watch your perspective: the door and window are much too extreme, and need to follow the angles set by the top and bottom of the roof more closely; and the towers at the far end of the roof are at a very odd angle - why are they sloping down to the right like that? I like the bush and the stone path, though.

A clever fantasy from Linda Eckert, whose demolition vehicles are revealing a hidden genie - very nice idea, very well realised. Taking away half the water wheel works well, but you need to take away its shadow as well - you can't leave it lingering there! Overall a very well considered piece.

A good scene from Frank, added cows, a swan and a smock-wearing farmer in the new doorway. Good touches - the open roof window, the cart wheel lying against the wall, the motion blur on the wheel - but you do need to get your lighting consistent. Those cows are lit by a very sunny day, not by an overcast lightning-strewn sky!

A fine mill from marki, with a working wheel, a new roof and a well-fitted new door. I like the dog in the grass, and the sign outside; perhaps you need to mow the grass, or put in a path to the front door? And is the grass really long enough to conceal the dog's entire body?

An enjoyable scene from Jimbean, with the mill moved to a hilly location and a working wheel once more. The edge where the bank meets the river is very dark, though, and too crisp; perhaps a reflection of that bank in the water would help? And I'm not sure about the green and brown window infills - unless they have some weird curtains. Hope you're recovering, Jim.

A fun-packed entry from Vibeke, who has moved it to the Scottish highlands, judging by the somewhat overdressed farmer (they only wear that get-up for weddings, you know). I like all the added wildlife, and the reflections in the water are very fine. But I'm a little disturbed by the pose of your deer: I don’t think you can just rotate them to match the angle of the hill! Those legs need to stay vertical!

Very clever work from Deb Raskin, with a thoroughly modern makeover to the mill. The cladding fits perfectly, and the transparency and reflectivity of the glass have been perfectly judged - a difficult job, indeed. My only problem is with the steps in front of the door: the angle of the left edge really should match the perspective of the house, don't you think? Some vanishing point lines would really help here!

A great half-finished project from Eva Roth, with the roof in the middle of being rebuilt and the ground in front churned up in preparation for remodelling. The woodwork is a great fit to the perspective of the building, although the beams on the far side are perhaps at too steep an angle (but I'm being really nitpicking here). A very fresh approach!

I can't work out what sort of animal features in James's animation, jumping into the river on the right before coasting downstream on its back: I thought at first it was an otter, but when it's drifting it looks more like a panda. I like the flapping wings on the stork - but shouldn't it be carrying a baby? Interesting water wheel action: an interesting approach, but is it just a little too frantic?

An idyllic scene from Artwel, with early morning mist producing a very ethereal effect. I like the part-ruined roof, and the new surroundings. But if the water is reflecting the bank so clearly, shouldn’t it reflect the top of the mill as well? Terrific movement in the animated version - a real sense of perspective in the clouds (is that real film footage?) and good foreground water movement. Best of all, though, is the fantastic movement of the water wheel: how on earth did you achieve that? Did you build a 3D model of it? The cascading water is perfect too. Fabulous!

A rough thatch from joeysala, seemingly built from twigs and dried grass. I've never seen a roof like this, but it does seem appropriate for the setting! Good work getting the shading on the right side to match the building, but is that face just too vertical?

Excellent work this week - an extremely high standard. Thanks again, Gordon, for the inspiring starting image!

Posted on 15/06/12 08:57:21 AM
Frank
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Thanks Steve -- I considered the lighting on the cows but was trying to portray a diminishing sunny side of the scene with an approaching storm - reason centre roof window still open -- must admit I had difficulty establishing perspective lines so perhaps if you had a moment could show us how they would lay out in this scene
Frank

Posted on 15/06/12 09:12:01 AM
GKB
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Thanks Steve,

Glad everyone had a good bash at renovation.

Probably won't have any time for the two or three weeks as I'm off to Welsh Wales to photograph Ospreys and play on the Ffestiniog Railway.

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Posted on 15/06/12 09:26:14 AM
vibeke
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"I don’t think you can just rotate them to match the angle of the hill! Those legs need to stay vertical! "
Thanks Steve,
Guess my guy is looking for a bride, LOL, and my deer is a goat.

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Posted on 15/06/12 11:46:06 AM
Jimbean
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Cheers Steve, I was seeing things in those windows that maybe weren't there, musta been the drugs they had me on....yeah right!! Thanks everyone for your kind thoughts its really appreciated! Feeling much better but then not looked at this weeks challenge yet so may have a relapse!!

Posted on 15/06/12 2:22:51 PM
Artwel
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thanks Steve, glad you managed to find the video, My Vimeo links don't seem to work! yes the wheel is a 3D model, easier than trying to fake it in photoshop. I've just learnt about masking video footage so I stuck the sheep in there as an experiment. I keep discovering more and more wonderful rhings in after effects, just a shame my computer almost grinds to a halt whenever I use the program!

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