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Posted on 10/11/10 5:20:11 PM
Eggbox
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Thank you all for caring for my health this week. I've been warmed, roasted, youthed!, fig leafed, floated, gilded and sunk several times. What more could a guy want but just one more throw of the dice....

Ted





Posted on 10/11/10 7:09:30 PM
Jota120
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Great stuff and work Mr Egg. Is that a shovel or a bottle. Blame your "friends" for the latter, or both....

Posted on 11/11/10 09:25:45 AM
tooquilos
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Sophie - Thank you!

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Posted on 11/11/10 1:22:45 PM
Steve Mac
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling

Eggbox wrote:
I've been warmed, roasted, youthed!, fig leafed, floated, gilded and sunk several times.

What more could a guy want but just one more throw of the dice....

Be careful what you wish for Ted!










Posted on 11/11/10 5:26:02 PM
Emil
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Excellent entries this week, especially I somehow like the feeling at Sophia picture (great work Sophia).

Here is my attempt:



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Posted on 11/11/10 6:05:16 PM
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Decided Ted had to sing deeper.



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Posted on 11/11/10 8:09:36 PM
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Great work Everybody, and thanks for the warm welcome!

Posted on 11/11/10 10:46:09 PM
Eva Roth
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Some truly inspiring entries this week! I've got too much work on, so sadly missing out on this week's challenge as well as Steve's book launch.

Posted on 12/11/10 07:33:40 AM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Many excellent entries this week - and with such a great initial image, it's little wonder.

First up was Tomiloi, with a splendid black and white scene of Ted on an urban sidewalk. I particularly like the skeletal hands reaching out of the cement. Just one thing: the shadow on the ground is in front of him. Cast by what? There's a solid brick wall behind him!

An interesting autumnal effect from Josephine Harvatt, with Ted covered in leaves - and a crumpled newspaper blowing over him. With all that crumpling, though, does the text need to be distorted as well?

A novel approach from Eggbox himself - he's completely disappeared beneath the pile of leaves. But are you really under there, Ted? Looks a little flat to me - unless you've gone on an emergency diet. I like the sunken effect in the second entry, and that neatly-added bottle of wine is a great enhancement. I like the way you're disappearing down the hole in the third entry - but at least there's a bottle of wine dropping in to join you.

A very corroded road surface from Luis, with Ted definitely sunk in there to a high degree. I like the convincing way in which the legs are breaking through the surface, but I'm not sure about the fingers on his right hand - would they be that much raised off the ground?

Our new forum member this week is kitten, with a highly stylized entry - Ted appears to be wrapped up like a mummy. I like the moonlit effect here, with subtle lighting on the figure. You do realise, though, that there's a high res version of the image as well as the low res preview? Welcome to the forum, Kat!

A thoroughly charming entry from tooquilos, who has done her best to make Ted comfortable - not just with a teddy bear and a pillow, but with the most artfully arranged blanket. Lovely work! A novel half-above half-below scene in the second entry, together with its splendid animated version - fantastic organic, fluid movement in the dream sequence! And has James been giving you tips on making that dog move? Brilliant, Anna.

Our second new member this week is coloursoftherainbow, with a beautifully waterlogged scene. The way the liquid curls around Ted's body is excellent, and the rubber ring makes a perfect pillow. Great additions in the duck and the seagull, and congratulations on the very fine translucency of the water surface. Welcome to the forum!

I love the way Nick Curtain has buried Ted in cement - those subtle ripples around the arm and leg are most convincing. And using an egg box as a begging bowl - terrific idea. Mind you, he'd need an awful lot of pennies to save up for CS5 Extended...

I like Ben Mills's clever Simpsons reference - with a very neat pile of earth in which to bury poor old Ted. But what is the mobster (Fat Tony, if my memory serves)standing on? Wouldn't it have been better to make him larger and bring him more into the foreground?

A very textural entry from stefan, with all the leaves cleared up and an almost hand-drawn effect in the finished image. I like the sinking of the arms, but I'm not sure about whether that knee would be sticking up so far... good to see you back, Stefan!

Some nice rippling around the body from Carlo Alessandro Della Valle, with Ted convincingly sunk into the ground - I especially like the way the hand starts to disappear, then the fingers come up again. Are the ripples a little too pronounced? They work well around the legs, less so around the hands.

Remarkable work from LonnieK, with Ted half sunk into a flooded scene - beautifully achieved, if I may say so, with excellent underwater effects. The sense of the liquid surface is greatly enhanced by making the leaves float on top (an ingenious solution), as well as the reflection of the tree. Immaculate, detailed work. And tying the image in with last week's Challenge in the second entry is a work of absolute genius - dazzling, Lonnie. I'm full of admiration.

There's something really appealing about brewell's circling sharks - perhaps it's the ripples they're making in the concrete surface. I like the distortion here, along with the shading: that's a really good ripple effect. And Ted is very neatly sunk into the surface, too.

A touch of black magic from GKB - and that's a novel witch you have there, complete with fire skirt and fiery trident (do witches actually have tridents?). I like the mirroring of the flames with the hands in front, but I'm having some trouble interpreting the scene: is that a grave? You and Ted must certainly have had an interesting conversation on the way back. I really like the gag in the second entry - but I am going to have to take you to task for not drawing those yellow lines in perspective. The horizontals should appear narrower than the verticals!

An interesting sinking effect from aschiewe, with Ted making only a slight indentation on the cement surface. Some great texture in there, and the added bottle and graffiti both combine to make the scene that much more compelling. Good work clearing up all those leaves!

Millais' Ophelia was always a favourite of mine - I was at school just down the road from the Tate Gallery, and used to visit the painting frequently in my teens. While michael sinclair's version does sink Ted rather neatly into the stream, I'm not sure he's quite the model for Ophelia that Shakespeare had in mind. Very good work getting rid of the original Ophelia, though - as neat a piece of patching as I've seen in a long time.

Very appealing work from Daniel, with a load of tiny Poser skeletons pushing - or pulling - Ted along the ground. I like the new floor surface, and the interaction between him and the skeletons: but I'm having some trouble interpreting the yellow line around his body. I don't quite see how this fits. A fine new body in the second entry, and I particularly like the way you've reproduced Ted's pose with the Poser model. It would have been interesting to intersect the figure with a Poser primitive to create the floor - or, indeed, perhaps you did just that. And a very interesting take on the third entry - but that's the problem with Poser models: the women may lie down, but their breasts don't. A great golden version in the fourth entry: but is that sand the wrong colour for the hand?

I like Jota120's working of the scene, with Ted half spilling through a set of steps - it does make a lot of sense of the perspective. And it looks like he's found some soulmates, too. Intriguing stuff going on in the second entry: is that a zombie Ted attacking a passer-by? Looks like something George Romero would have come up with. Who's the figure behind the sleeping Ted?

A suburban setting from Deborah Morley, as Ted sinks into the soft asphalt: some nice rippling going on here. And I like the fact that he has a pet dog to cuddle!

An interesting image from Garfield72, with Ted asleep outside the bank. He fits well, but the money doesn't appear in the right perspective for the scene: it really needs to be flatter on the ground. It's improved in the second entry, but the shadows are too far away from the bank notes, and from Ted - they both look as if they're floating.

I like the way Kuham has moved Ted against a shut-up store - very nicely sunk into the cement outside. My only problem here is with the hard shadow above him, which seems to make the scene look a little unreal: tone this down, and you'll have a much stronger shot.

Our third new member this week (we are doing well) is tissana, who has moved Ted into a scene of destruction. I like the way his legs have been tucked behind other elements in the scene, which makes him very much belong in there. Just make the shadow beneath his arm a little lighter, and it will be perfect. Welcome to the forum!

A great animation from James, beginning with a leaf blower removing the debris, followed by Ted sinking into the ground. And as for standing him up and opening his eyes at the end - well, James, you've made the most of a seemingly impossible task!

Beautiful sinking and rippling from Sophie, with Ted very convincingly lowered into the ground. I particularly like the way the cement goes over his hands - it's especially appealing. Very accomplished work. And, as you say, it is hard to know when to stop!

Very clever work from BigVern, who has created a complex quilted pavement pattern and then wrapped it around Ted - and the more I look at it, the more detail I see. The delicate cracking of the texture; the careful folds and wrinkles; and the excellent sinking effect around the left hand. Fantastic work, Vern - good to see you back!

A beautifully lit night scene from Vibeke, with Ted resting his head on an orange box - and a can of Heineken half sunk into the ground next to him. Some splendid graffiti on the wall behind as well - an appealing image! The second entry finds him sunk rather further into the ground, which I like. But have you missed out an adjustment layer? The first version had more punch, I felt.

The action has moved indoors for Emil, with Ted neatly sunk into an immaculate tiled floor. I like the angle of view, and the delicate rippling around the body; the added tulip adds an extra emotional content to the scene. My only small problem is that Ted is far too large for the furniture next to him!


Excellent entries this week. And once again, many thanks to Ted for agreeing to pose for us!

Posted on 12/11/10 08:07:23 AM
Carlo Alessandro Della Valle
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Thank you Steve... I agree with you, the hands area didn't work as well as I expected...

Posted on 12/11/10 08:12:30 AM
Daniel
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Thanks a lot for the comments Steve. In my second and third entries I used indeed a Poser primitive to make the intersection. I also used dynamic hair and simulated it for the woman, but unfortunately there isn’t (at least still) such a thing as dynamic breasts in Poser yet! Although I’m sure it will come.

Very appealing work from Daniel, with a load of tiny Poser skeletons pushing - or pulling - Ted along the ground. I like the new floor surface, and the interaction between him and the skeletons: but I'm having some trouble interpreting the yellow line around his body. I don't quite see how this fits. A fine new body in the second entry, and I particularly like the way you've reproduced Ted's pose with the Poser model. It would have been interesting to intersect the figure with a Poser primitive to create the floor - or, indeed, perhaps you did just that. And a very interesting take on the third entry - but that's the problem with Poser models: the women may lie down, but their breasts don't. A great golden version in the fourth entry: but is that sand the wrong colour for the hand?





Posted on 12/11/10 09:48:36 AM
josephine harvatt
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Possibly the designers are more familiar with implants than the genuine article Daniel.


Thanks as ever for your perceptive comments Steve

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Posted on 12/11/10 12:24:48 PM
Sophie
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Thanks Steve. No. 326 is going to be interesting!?

Posted on 12/11/10 1:11:12 PM
Jota120
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Sorry about this reply:

Steve Caplin wrote:
I like Jota120's working of the scene, with Ted half spilling through a set of steps - it does make a lot of sense of the perspective. And it looks like he's found some soulmates, too. Intriguing stuff going on in the second entry: is that a zombie Ted attacking a passer-by? Looks like something George Romero would have come up with. Who's the figure behind the sleeping Ted?

Those guys were very nice. Sorry about virtual Ted. I love to apply my limited langues, in this case German

Well the second image is more difficult. I never comment on my paintings.

Since its not a painting and Steve asks:
Its burden of guilt when you walk past someone dying in a street, the world and do nothing. It will be with you forever when you get that close. He wanted you, and gets closer than you think possible.

The guy in the back is our bog man, you saw him before.


Posted on 12/11/10 2:10:43 PM
Daniel
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
I guess they are Josephine!

josephine harvatt wrote:
Possibly the designers are more familiar with implants than the genuine article Daniel.




Posted on 12/11/10 4:04:28 PM
LonnieK
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Steve Caplin wrote:
Remarkable work from LonnieK... Immaculate... dazzling... I'm full of admiration.


Your generous compliments are very flattering Steve. Thank you!

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Posted on 12/11/10 5:32:28 PM
stefan
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Thanks Steve !....yes, I see your point.

Posted on 12/11/10 7:05:42 PM
dejá_vu
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
hello everybody. This week I haven't had enough time to work on the challenge because some health issues, but I've been following your post closely and your works are realy interesting.

A few days before the challenge I made the same kind of retouch in the "problems and solutions" section of the forum and worked from scratch with another image.

Out of "contest" I'd like to share it with you. And, by the way, welcome to the new members.





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Posted on 12/11/10 7:48:10 PM
BigVern
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Steve, thank you for your very kind words. This challenge really appealed to me ... I think it is one of my favourites. I may even try to do some similar surreal effects with other images now I have gotten the bug. Cheers Vern

Posted on 13/11/10 05:52:53 AM
kitten
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Re: Challenge 325: That sinking feeling
Thank you Steve, I really appreciate you feedback.
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