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Posted on 01/04/21 8:19:52 PM
Frank
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Thanks folks,
David Mac - realize that - just fun
Michael - I'm sure he'll notice and my compliments on a nice job you did
David Mac , Gordon ,and Loyd had pretty well limited any ideas I had with some fine entries - thus - after some deliberations a fun animation
Well done all




Posted on 01/04/21 10:23:16 PM
Mariner
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
DavidMac wrote:
Mariner. Great stuff. Beautifully done.

But where's the panicked screaming mother rushing in to sweep her youngest away from danger?

Believe me, David, I thought hard about doing exactly what you asked, but that would cause problems: what size, and where to put her? Worse, would she distract attention from the main theme, a young boy about to put his baby brother in the morgue? So, reluctantly, I decided to leave her out. Maybe I was wrong.


Posted on 01/04/21 10:38:37 PM
GKB
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Frank wrote:
Thanks folks,
David Mac - realize that - just fun
Michael - I'm sure he'll notice and my compliments on a nice job you did
David Mac , Gordon ,and Loyd had pretty well limited any ideas I had with some fine entries - thus - after some deliberations a fun animation
Well done all


Sorry if I pinched your ideas Frank. I’ll try not to let it happen next week

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Posted on 02/04/21 08:13:08 AM
DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Mariner wrote:
DavidMac wrote:
Mariner. Great stuff. Beautifully done.

But where's the panicked screaming mother rushing in to sweep her youngest away from danger?

Believe me, David, I thought hard about doing exactly what you asked, but that would cause problems: what size, and where to put her? Worse, would she distract attention from the main theme, a young boy about to put his baby brother in the morgue? So, reluctantly, I decided to leave her out. Maybe I was wrong.



Very dark.

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Posted on 02/04/21 08:31:22 AM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
A “quickie” from DavidMac started this week’s entries, with a transposed front wheel. But was it really a quickie? Look at the rebuilt mudguard, the cutout spokes inside the wheel, the hint of a fourth mudguard seen through the windscreen… a masterful quickie. I like the relocation in the second entry, but as always if you push an object that far back into the scene you’re pushing the close-up perspective to its limits. It’s the shadow that gets in the way here: a lot softer, perhaps? The politics in the third entry make a lot of sense - nice work, especially the wrapping of the union jack around the car.

Hugely amused by GKB's fat-wheeled entry, not least by the neatly built shadow. Very cute! And I like the extra mudguards in the second entry. I approve of the paint job in the third entry, but - British Racing Green? More like Babar the Elephant. Good bricks, although they should be in shadow. Aha! A much better colour in the fourth entry.

I laughed out loud at lwc's entry: there’s something so absurd yet absolutely plausible about it. Love the understatement - do you have English ancestors? A very fine second entry, with an excellent wheel spin effect. Curious to see the car sliding left and right without the background moving, though. You need some of Michael Sinclair’s rushing trees.

A speed-blurred background from dwindt, with a racing number on the car. I like the wheelspin effect, which must have had there additional benefit of not having to cut out the spokes. Good to see the cast of Wacky Races in the second entry. I’m overwhelmed with admiration for the 3D model and your texturing in the third entry: a glorious piece of work. Immaculate, Dennis. And brilliant work in the fourth entry showing us the rear view! And fabulous to see it in all its glory in the fifth entry. That cockpit close-up is splendid.

I see tooquilos has reverted the car to its pre-restoration state, with a tremendous amount of rust and decay. The extra tyres fill out the background neatly. Splendid workshop in the animated version, and that’s an amazing custom job at the end - complete with flamethrower!

Superb work from michael sinclair, who has chrome plated the car and given it an all round polish. Or, more likely, found a photo of a similar car. But good to get our driver in there, and that’s great wheel spin. A rather boxy shadow, though; but otherwise bang on topic.

A gloriously cute entry from Mariner, with a spruced-up car and a new driver. I like the moved exhaust, the smoke, the added number plate and the paint job. You do have a tendency to oversaturate your clothing, though: that baby’s onesie screams out of the image. Tone it down, Michael! Much better if it doesn’t shout at you.

A charming animation from Frank, with its silent movie soundtrack. Best part for me is the way the car falling into the lake splashes water on the screen. Glorious, Frank!

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An addendum to my comments on Mariner’s tendency to over-saturate clothing to make it stand out: a hundred years ago (or thereabouts), when I started doing illustrations for newspapers, most pages were in black and white with a few in colour. Because the illustrations were originally hand painted, the newspapers paid more for colour than for black and white.

But when it comes to photomontage, black and white is vastly harder. You can make an element stand out and draw attention to the subject by making it a different colour. But in black and white, the composition has to do all the work on its own.
So what I’m saying, Michael, is: let your composition create the story, and don’t use over-bright colours to make the point for you.

Posted on 02/04/21 09:34:38 AM
GKB
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Thanks Steve

I toyed with the idea of a video resurrecting a song that I hadn’t heard for many a long year by the “New Christie Minstrels”; “Three Wheels On My Wagon” but it would have been far too complex in the time available.

Well done everyone.

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Posted on 02/04/21 10:01:24 AM
dwindt
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Thank you Steve. The first 2 images that you gave me credit for, were DougD's wonderful entries.

I thoroughly enjoyed this challenge, tinkering with the model jpo's model... and appreciate Gordon's encouragement in learning more about manipulating 3D freebie, in the sense of breaking it down further. Thank you Steve and well done everybody.

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Posted on 02/04/21 10:07:39 AM
Mariner
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Thank you for the extra footnote Steve. I have taken it to heart this time. In future I will be lowering the saturation of clothing to the point where I don't quite like it any more and will see what you think. It may be that my eyes are not quite right, or that my monitor is poorly adjusted, but without someone knowledgeable looking over my shoulder I am not really in a position to judge. Please in future give me the thumbs down again if you think I am still oversaturating.

Posted on 02/04/21 10:44:05 AM
DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Steve Caplin wrote:
But was it really a quickie?


About three hours by my estimate. I don't know if that qualifies for quickie or not.

... but as always if you push an object that far back into the scene you’re pushing the close-up perspective to its limits. It’s the shadow that gets in the way here: a lot softer, perhaps?


I was aware of the perspective problem but thought I had sorta, kinda, hopefully, almost got away with it. I tried some gentle re-shaping but on a subject like that it simply doesn't work. Too many things start to visibly distort too quickly. You are quite right about the shadow. Kicking myself for missing that.

But when it comes to photomontage, black and white is vastly harder. You can make an element stand out and draw attention to the subject by making it a different colour. But in black and white, the composition has to do all the work on its own.


I agree with this absolutely. Same of course applies to the original photography itself. In black and white it's not only composition that becomes vastly more important - contrasting of one element against another to define them and exploitation of surface textures take on a huge significance too. Like you I started mostly in black and white and, although colour was (in those days) technically much more demanding, black and white was far more challenging.

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Posted on 02/04/21 10:57:53 AM
lwc
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Steve Caplin wrote:

Love the understatement - do you have English ancestors?


Thanks Steve...

...from Wales during the late 1700s...

You need some of Michael Sinclair’s rushing trees.



I made one with the "rushing trees", but chose not to post it. (reduced in size here)











Posted on 06/04/21 09:14:44 AM
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Re: Challenge 850: The two-wheeler
Thank you so much Steve


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