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Posted on 18/04/25 08:54:27 AM |
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Ben Boardman
Printing Pro Posts: 601 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
[quoted] Steve Caplin wrote: The dog does seem rather out of place, unless there’s a legal precedent of which I’m unaware. Ah – thanks for the key to the characters! Thank you Steve, enjoyed that one.It's Elon Musk's dog, I didn't want to have his child hanging around court all day. |
Posted on 18/04/25 09:34:03 AM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3006 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
Nice speech Steve. Unfortunately I am too old a dog to want to learn new tricks. |
Posted on 18/04/25 12:21:14 PM |
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Frank
Eager Beaver Posts: 1733 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
Thanks Steve for your comments. I agree with your AI comments. I have tinkered with AI characters a bit and agree it takes some (considerable) skill to get it to create an exact figment of your imagination which will fit into a given scene. As you say a complete image generated by AI is a different character. Dennis did a marvellous job in my opinion creating a striking image. |
Posted on 18/04/25 12:24:24 PM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5551 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
That was entirely deliberate. It always amuses me when I see photos of courtrooms with the defendant dressed in some awful suit which is only there to them look 'respectable'.
Fortunately my first hand experience of courtrooms is very limited. I had to give evidence once in one of the older central London law courts. It's over fifty years ago now but my memory of it is very dim and gloomy. Glad you like the dust sheets entry. It was, of course, in a sense, lazy, because it's my comfort zone.
Yes good point. All photoshop work using found images is in one way or another 'second hand'.
The fact that something is difficult doesn't necessarily validate it. I have indeed often tried what you say out of sheer curiosity. I am sure most of us have. It's fascinating to try. It's also unbelievably frustrating. As you say, prompt writing is a very special skill. When it first arrived I described AI as an idiot savant. I still think it's a valid description. It's incredible talent with zero depth or maturity. A small child whose a genius with a paintbrush but doesn't yet understand the world around it well enough to use it meaningfully. To coach and guide it into doing exactly what you want is indeed a skill that needs endless patience and practice. My personal difficulty is that I am not tempted to put in the effort needed because I so dislike the slick, empty, soulless, look of the results. Sooner or later it will learn more and users will get cleverer at prompting and, hopefully, it will gain more depth.
Well yes. But whose image is it? My huge difficulty is that, however cleverly Dennis may have put it together, and shaped AI to his will and requirements, the instantly recognisable slick, facile AI style is so devastatingly prominent and overpowering that he is completely buried under it. There is nothing recognisably Dennis left. It could be anybody's work who's good with a prompt. Dennis is talented and I find that saddening. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 18/04/25 1:47:13 PM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 871 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
Thank you, Steve. Well done everybody. This has been a very enjoyable and enlightening challenge. Steve, the higher scale has 3 one kg scale weighs on it.  _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 18/04/25 2:21:57 PM |
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lwc
Hole in One Posts: 3121 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
It was a fun challenge, Witness for the Prosecution is a favorite film of mine and the most satisfying to make... thanks Steve! |
Posted on 18/04/25 2:26:26 PM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 871 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
Sorry to mention AI again. A problem I have when doing a design for someone, is the time they waste and therefore make me waste, trying to portray their inability to describe what their idea is like. This causing me to waste countless hours, trying to nail the design they can't imagine but turn down when you produce exactly what they described. With practice in AI, within a short period of time, you can deliver multiple examples to the client, thus getting a feel for the taste and style they are looking for. It's a blank canvas that is beyond a blank canvas that gets everyone on the same page. To eliminate the guess work is power indeed and quite frankly, I deliver my best on the first attempt. The second time I do an image, directly after the first, I'm still trying to achieve the flair I produced in the first image...plus I'm "p'd" off because I followed the brief the first time. If I know I'm on the same page as my client, I'll pour all my tricks of the trade into their work, blending 3D principles with 2D together with every trick in the book all you masters have shared with me. Thank you all for being patient with me. I'll continue to visit and share what I have learnt along the way. Now I have another challenge to prepare for. God bless and have a safe and healthy Easter! _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 18/04/25 3:54:33 PM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5551 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
Dear God yes!! If I had a euro for each them! Steve too I'm sure. The worst client is the one who gives you a 'free hand'. "Oh, I'll just leave it up to you Dennis ..... I'm sure it will be lovely."  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 18/04/25 4:40:48 PM |
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Steve Caplin
Administrator Posts: 6990 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
I’ve had far too many clients who don’t know what they want until they’ve seen everything they don’t want. A case in point: some years ago I was commissioned by a big ad agency to create some characters (in Illustrator!) for an interactive DVD for Coca Cola. They wanted a femme fatale, and came up with a string of contradictory adjectives – “modern, yet traditional; sexy, yet demure”. After I’d submitted some ideas the Creative Director called me into the office, and showed me some elegant line drawings he’d done over the weekend. “See this?” he said. “This is what I don’t want.” Go figure, as they say. |
Posted on 18/04/25 5:45:38 PM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 5551 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
I did a stop frame animation once for a French stock cube. I was given a storyboard with a cockerel strutting around the barnyard with two chickens snuggling up to him under each wing. The very feminist lady client then told me it mustn't be sexist! What!? I know how to play the double talk game with clients so I told her that we would make him SO sexist that he became a mockery. To my amazement she bought it! We had a cockerel and chicken casting at the end of which two chickens and a cockerel were sacrificed for art and then sent to the taxidermist. The resulting soft stuffed chickens and cockerel were then fitted with metal articulated 'skeletons' by the animator and animated frame by frame to become anthropomorphised 'live' chickens. The wonderful world of advertising ........... _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 18/04/25 10:33:26 PM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 871 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1049: Justice is served
and the old folk told us not to play with our food...lol. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
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