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Posted on 02/06/23 08:06:40 AM
Steve Caplin
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Challenger 958: The flood wall
A lot of effort has gone into the construction of this flood wall, but so far it seems to have no point.

Can you add some water so we can see if it works?

High res is here.



Posted on 02/06/23 10:22:40 AM
Frank
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Well Steve, I had to try AI and possibly opening pandora's box here is the result - all created by AI with some minor color tweaking and of course selections.



Posted on 02/06/23 11:20:54 AM
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Amazing, Frank. Pandora's box...yes.

I don't think I shall be using AI in the forseeable future. I prefer to use my own RLI (Rather Limitied Intellignece) as I take great pleasure in creating my own scenarios, however unnatural they may be. Affinity Photo, my preferred Photoshop imitator, does not yet have AI built in. I might have a look at ChatGPT and see what it can do, but maybe it's not a good idea to let it have my ip address. And perhaps I am just being paranoid.



Posted on 02/06/23 11:40:13 AM
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Mariner- agree, I do not plan on using AI to any large extent and certainly not as my own work or idea(s). In this case it did a remarkable job in my opinion - had to give it a try.
Like you, I prefer to create my own scenarios.

Posted on 02/06/23 12:46:27 PM
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Interesting Frank... I can't compete with that.

I've a couple of hours invested in this animation and unless I can think of something silly it may be the end for me this week.



Posted on 02/06/23 1:20:25 PM
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Re: Challenger 958: The flood wall
Well this has proved very interesting and somewhat sobering.

I decided to start by finding out what I could do completely unaided without any AI at all. I have not been to Steve's review to see his AI results because I wanted to approach this without any preconceptions. I do remember from when I first looked at it a week ago that the results were impressive but can remember no more than that.

Part of the difficulty with this image is that everything in the image is of a similar grassy texture so it's hard to distinguish reflections from surroundings and make them 'pop'.

Anyway here are two attempts. The second is in all respects the same as the first except that I have tried to preserve some of the foreground by creating a mask from the blue channel - with very limited success it must be said.

All in all this very simple looking image represents close to three hours work, a surprising amount of which was spent simply trying variations in reflection colour and density.







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Posted on 02/06/23 4:12:11 PM
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Here's another take, still all by hand with no AI assistance.

I had previously conceived the background as quite a steep bank and thus reflecting in the water. On closer examination I think this is probably mistaken and that it is flatter than I had previously thought thus allowing much more sky to reflect. I have also experimented with different colouring in the water.

Some of this was built on the basis of the previous image but most is new and represents about another two hours of work, a good portion of which was building the duck take off.




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Posted on 02/06/23 8:10:32 PM
michael sinclair
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I accept your challenge Steve! (see thread on AI in General comments)





Posted on 02/06/23 8:46:34 PM
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Posted on 03/06/23 00:20:17 AM
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Posted on 03/06/23 04:47:32 AM
Ben Boardman
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All my own images, shot locally at Remote Yacht Squadron

Posted on 03/06/23 06:46:55 AM
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I have to admit, that I'm fascinated by AI and what you can do in Photoshop. This is all AI, I apologise to the purists.
Neglected garden, by Vibeke Friis, on Flickr


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Posted on 03/06/23 07:36:17 AM
DavidMac
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Re: Challenger 958: The flood wall
Dang Loyd! Muddy was to be my next attempt!

Very nice Ben.

Oh I'll be getting round to AI later in the week Vibeke. I'm dead curious! But I want to do my own thing first without preconceptions.


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Posted on 03/06/23 08:09:32 AM
Ben Boardman
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Thank you David - your duck take off image looks the real deal. Its going to be an interesting week I think.

Posted on 03/06/23 10:55:18 AM
michael sinclair
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Mission accomplished!

the first image is the starting image, and the second is a cutout from photographs that I took.








Posted on 03/06/23 1:13:59 PM
lwc
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DavidMac wrote:
Dang Loyd! Muddy was to be my next attempt!



Plenty of room for your version...



Posted on 03/06/23 1:17:15 PM
lwc
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Generate this AI... sorry about the moose, temptation was too great.



Posted on 03/06/23 2:12:56 PM
Mariner
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Welcome back Vibeke! Your AI image is amazing,.

Posted on 03/06/23 2:35:18 PM
Frank
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No AI in this one - just my brain?
Laughed at the Moose Loyd!



Posted on 03/06/23 3:08:44 PM
DavidMac
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Re: Challenger 958: The flood wall
Good to see you back Vibeke. Sorry I mistook your entry for Anna. Apologies. Now corrected.

Micheal I find the added plantations very convincing but there's something about the water's edge doesn't really convince me.

Well up to your usual standards Frank. I really like it.



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