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Posted on 03/10/25 08:05:34 AM
Steve Caplin
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Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
I went back to the Fondation Louis Vuitton in Paris recently to see the David Hockney exhibition again, and was once more struck by Frank Gehry's dazzling architectural vision. At one point a full height glass wall gives onto this view of a shallow river that appears to run around the exterior of the building.

Surely a waterway of this prominence needs a boat or two? Or is there a better way to make use of the facility?

Apologies for the text reflection, there was no way to prevent it.

High res is here.



Posted on 03/10/25 10:49:14 AM
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Posted on 03/10/25 12:04:00 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Well there's a challenging start. That's very clever Ant.

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Posted on 03/10/25 5:14:31 PM
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Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Steve Caplin wrote:
Apologies for the text reflection, there was no way to prevent it.


And, interestingly, it would seem that, unless I am using it badly, Camera Raw reflection removal can't get rid of it.

I'll have to use other means. A little bit tedious but I don't anticipate any difficulties. However, it shows that 'miracle' tools have limits in some cases.

Curious to see if others find the same thing.

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Posted on 04/10/25 08:17:52 AM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
http://olafureliasson.net/artwork/inside-the-horizon-2014/

At the bottom of this web page there is an interesting movie.


Posted on 04/10/25 09:32:29 AM
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Posted on 04/10/25 11:40:51 AM
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Thanks Steve for introducing me to this and Mariner for the extra details and movie. We love Ghery's architecture and have visited several of his buildings and stayed in one in Rioja.

Ingrid and I will be in Paris for a few days next month as our son is competing in the World Judo Championships there. Once the dust has settled I will definitely add this to our itinerary.

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Posted on 04/10/25 3:19:11 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Oh Steve ........ your favourite ....... HE'S BACK!!"



I've cheated a bit here and treated the water as if it were only a very shallow 'skin' above the tiles. It's quite fashionable to do that nowadays in public spaces.

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Posted on 04/10/25 3:53:54 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Ben. Because you have done such a lovely job and I know how good you are, I am going to be really picky and point out that you should not be able to see the reflections of the wall through the reflection of the boat. The reflection might be transparent inasmuch as you could see the bottom of the waterway through it but it would completely mask any reflections behind it, in exactly the same way the boat itself masks anything behind it. Same applies to the girls.

I find reflections really hard. They look as if they ought be so easy ......... just a bit of flip and ripple ........but, in truth, they can be very nasty creatures to create and deal with effectively. I had no end of difficulties with mine and if you look closely you will find all sorts of similar anomalies.

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Posted on 05/10/25 00:17:24 AM
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Fish by Frank Gehry


Posted on 05/10/25 00:19:08 AM
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Ben. Because you have done such a lovely job and I know how good you are, I am going to be really picky and point out that you should not be able to see the reflections of the wall through the reflection of the boat.

Thank you David, advice appreciated.

Posted on 05/10/25 09:39:06 AM
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Ben Boardman wrote:
Thank you David, advice appreciated.


Ben, it was a comment. I wasn't suggesting you should re-do it!

But since you have, I hope you will agree that it's a small change that makes a big difference. To my eye, this looks so much more convincing.

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Posted on 05/10/25 10:44:55 AM
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DavidMac wrote:
Ben Boardman wrote:
Thank you David, advice appreciated.


Ben, it was a comment. I wasn't suggesting you should re-do it!

But since you have, I hope you will agree that it's a small change that makes a big difference. To my eye, this looks so much more convincing.


David, in an earlier draft I had masked under the boat but for some reason had delated the mask Once you mentioned it I really had to fix it for my own satisfaction. Rather than replacing the original I made a new entry as I thought our discussion may help someone else. It certainly makes a big difference, I really do appreciate your input, thanks.


Posted on 05/10/25 11:43:35 AM
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Having criticised another entry, I have now just spotted that I have a silly mistake in my own. I got so carried away with my main creation that I completely forgot to remove part of the reflection (above the far sunflower). It's my dreaded Photoshop tunnel vision again.

I am not going back in to do it ......... I shall just blush quietly .........

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Posted on 05/10/25 2:31:41 PM
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Posted on 06/10/25 1:25:31 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
http://vimeo.com/1124816953

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Posted on 06/10/25 2:17:08 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
This is fun Gordon. Did you texture the Vuitton duck yourself or is their actually a 3D model out their somewhere? Its Hilarious!

Ben Boardman wrote:
I made a new entry as I thought our discussion may help someone else.


Ummmmm ........

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Posted on 06/10/25 2:34:47 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Steve Caplin wrote:
Surely a waterway of this prominence needs a boat or two?


REALLY? ........

This was a classic case of biting off more than I could chew. A huge amount of work went into this, but I haven't really pulled it off and it looks clearly 'shopped'.

But I had a lot of fun trying!!



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Posted on 06/10/25 3:01:16 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
David
It’s a 3D model. I changed the yellow texture for the Louis Vuitton using a straight jpg image. I didn’t map the texture with Body Paint software hence it ‘coming to a point’ on the duck’s chest; same with the tartan texture.


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Posted on 06/10/25 4:37:15 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
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David
It’s a 3D model. I changed the yellow texture for the Louis Vuiton texture using a straight jpg image. I didn’t map the texture with Body Paint software hence it ‘coming to a point’ on the duck’s chest; same with the tartan texture.


Very clever Gordon. Centring the texture to get the point on the chest works perfectly ..... anyway it's the head where you really see it and it works really well there too..


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