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Posted on 10/09/04 08:12:36 AM |
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Steve Caplin
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Contest 11: Rebuild the head
This is a skull I was given some years ago by a friend who was a nurse. Heaven knows where she got it from, it didn't seem appropriate to pry too deeply. I watched one of those police/forensic programmes on TV the other day, where they rebuilt a face using a skull as reference, and I was wondering how difficult that would be to do. Any takers? As usual, there's a high res version here - and I've added a clipping path for those of you who don't like the pen tool (you really must learn it, you know).  |
Posted on 10/09/04 09:00:06 AM |
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trinityofone
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Ouch! Drawing human anotomy has never been one of my strong points (along with forna, flora, and pretty much everything else), which i why I think I got into the montage lark in the first place  _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 10/09/04 7:15:55 PM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
You can, of course, take skin grafts from any suitable subject... |
Posted on 10/09/04 8:04:52 PM |
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trinityofone
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Aah, I didn't realise that would be in the rules. _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 10/09/04 10:41:54 PM |
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maiden
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
click for bigger version Constructing a realistic skin was extremely difficult. I'm not sure I got the remit of this one correct, there isn't a lot in the book about reconstructing skulls. |
Posted on 11/09/04 00:39:52 AM |
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russ davey
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Very good seeing as youve drawn the parts (expt teeth and blonde hair) shading/dodge & burn work really well Maiden. Im not sure if Im breaking the rules, using a face, but I dont have the skills to draw a face like that. Im thinking this week its a bit out of Russ' league, bl00dy novice!! Here's my "interesting" attempt anyhow!   |
Posted on 11/09/04 05:02:46 AM |
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Atomicfog
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
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Posted on 11/09/04 11:12:28 AM |
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maiden
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
I had another bash as I was unhappy about the pasted on mouth - so I created another mouth from scratch based upon the skull's rather bad teeth.  
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Posted on 11/09/04 12:04:26 PM |
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russ davey
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Maiden, thats cool, I love the texture of the face and freckles, the shading is just right especially the shiny bits. The only thing I would change is I would use a tiny smudge tool on the hair, although you probably already tried that and maybe it didnt work. The hair looks a little "cut out", maybe try smudging a bit from the scalp too (center of hair by her fore head). I cant talk this challenge is way out of my league, my image is pants. lol  |
Posted on 11/09/04 12:10:40 PM |
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maiden
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
I agree with you about the hair, Russ. However, I'm not sure if I can be bothered to have another bash though as I know for a fact that Tweaknik will blow everything I could do straight out of the water - just look at his website and you'll see what I mean http://www.coolbubble.com/gallery/index.htm Well I did have another bash and the hair works much better now, thanks Russ. 
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Posted on 11/09/04 12:50:57 PM |
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tweaknik
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
maiden: nice work, you've blended the montage parts reall well with the hand drawn parts, although the skulls teeth are a little scary. If you do plan to do any more work on it, I'd raise the hairline a little and bulk up the right cheek (I'd probably use liquify with a large brush). it's looking good though. If my pictures are discouraging anyone else from entering theirs then I'll stop. russ: that's terrifying... |
Posted on 11/09/04 1:07:25 PM |
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maiden
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Thanks for the tips. I'll try them later. I don't think your pictures are discouraging people they are very impressive, which can be a bit daunting as most of us are still at the praticing stage. I think I'm a little in awe of your Photoshop skills, as I've always said so on b3ta, particularly how you can simply paint from scratch a photorealistic portrait whereas I'm more inclined to simply Photomontage stuff. I think it's great that you are here, but it's a steep learning curve for the rest of us to get to where you are now. 
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Posted on 11/09/04 1:22:31 PM |
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trinityofone
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Blimey! Your work is awesome Tweak!! I wish I had an Nth of that artistic talent! _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 11/09/04 1:31:50 PM |
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russ davey
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Yes terrifyingly bad photomontage.... lol    
Great site Tweak - those paintings look so real  |
Posted on 11/09/04 1:52:38 PM |
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maiden
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Okay this is the final image, no point in tweaking it any further. As suggested by tweaknik some cosmetic dentistry, raised hairline, and a more fuller right cheek. 
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Posted on 11/09/04 3:39:50 PM |
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mj
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
"How to cheat in photoshop", Since I am not an artist I did exactly that, cheat. 
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Posted on 12/09/04 7:08:07 PM |
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Jiger
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Hi Steve and everybody ! Bought "The Book - 2nd ed" a while ago and *have* I had use for it. Great book. Really. Great idea also this Friday Challange thing. Splendid entries from all. Couldn't do half of it since i'm not much of a montage guy myself. Having sad that I'd might show another way of using Photoshop (7.1) ... ? Ok - now, recreating a head from the cranal features of a skull is a highly demanding forensic technique that puts great stress on skills within science, anathomy and art. Unfortunately I have non of those. Can't draw a straight line on a piece of paper, really ... If I freely associate around what I see of the skull ( in 2D ) I come up with this: Were looking at the remains of a woman, caucasian, not yet in her middle age, rather slim with attractive features and green eyed. She was most probably a victim for... ahem... ahmmm - let's not get into that, shall we ? But why green eyed ? Simple ! I like green eyed women and I'm doing this recreation here  !
So, how do I go about it then ? Well, I'll use a nifty li'll program mentioned in the book called Poser. ... and there I load up a default Vicky character. 
One of the better features with Poser is that you can alter the features of the character to your liking using morph targets ( pre-made ). So, I position the character about the same as the skull is positioned, get rid of that awful "texture" and start altering morphs. After doing that for a while I come up with this. Quite close to what I imagined, isn't it ? 
Happy with what i've got I take the image out of Poser and into Photoshop for finals, and after a number of hours in Photoshop I get this result here. 
Now, could I have done this without the skull to begin with? Most probably, yes, but the challange made me think ! |
Posted on 12/09/04 11:31:34 PM |
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russ davey
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Very nice, maybe you can introduce us? How are you finding Poser, I always struggled to get to grips with it.  |
Posted on 13/09/04 09:14:20 AM |
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tabitha 1
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
Just wondering how to compete with the current entries? And Tweaknik hasn't even entered yet!
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Posted on 13/09/04 09:37:01 AM |
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maiden
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Re: Contest 11: Rebuild the head
I'm sure whatever you do will be great Tabitha, you have a good eye for detail. |
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