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Posted on 28/04/23 08:18:36 AM
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Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
I noticed this curious array of roadworks barriers outside the studio where my band was rehearsing (and if you want to see us live, our next gig is on May 19th – details here.

To me, this looks more like the sort of construction you'd use to keep something in, rather than to keep people out. But what on earth could it be?

High res is here.



Posted on 28/04/23 09:14:13 AM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
Now there’s a cutout challenge 😱

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Posted on 28/04/23 09:30:51 AM
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Steve on keyboards! Good sounds Steve. A bit of a polymath ain't ya! Get it on!


Posted on 28/04/23 09:41:37 AM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
It's doubly odd because the arrows are placed for people driving on the right hand side of road. It could be a one way street of course but all the cars are pointing the other way.

Oddly there doesn't seem be anything inside to keep people out of either .......... er, so to speak.

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Posted on 28/04/23 10:49:45 AM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
GKB wrote:
Now there’s a cutout challenge 😱


Not quite as bad as you might think. I recommend switching to QuickMask, then using a hard-edged brush the width of a cutout area to click at the top, then shift+click at the bottom. Repeat for all the spaces in one set, then duplicate the set and free transform over the others.

Posted on 28/04/23 11:16:49 AM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
Steve Caplin wrote:
GKB wrote:
Now there’s a cutout challenge 😱


Not quite as bad as you might think. I recommend switching to QuickMask, then using a hard-edged brush the width of a cutout area to click at the top, then shift+click at the bottom. Repeat for all the spaces in one set, then duplicate the set and free transform over the others.

That’s the way I would normally do this. It just takes time. Shouldn’t need to separate out the rear fence, though - just the foreground fence.


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Posted on 28/04/23 2:33:25 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
GKB wrote:
Shouldn’t need to separate out the rear fence, though - just the foreground fence.


And only the bits of that that actually have something behind them.

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Posted on 28/04/23 4:14:20 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
How to avoid too much tricky cutting out ............



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Posted on 28/04/23 4:14:21 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
I was so concentrated on my stupid little gag that I completely missed that I have messed up the perspective on the building. I am not going back to correct it for a such a silly entry.

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Posted on 28/04/23 4:36:12 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
Likewise:


Posted on 28/04/23 5:32:27 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage


And a non-animated version...




Incidentally the venue for Bedlam has moved and the barriers are staged outside in anticipation of the need for late night crowd control...

Posted on 28/04/23 6:39:12 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
Shouldn't he with Trump inside the cage?

Love the subtle light change on Boris and the glass.

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Posted on 28/04/23 6:46:52 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
I've just noticed that I didn't mess up the perspective on the building. I merely extended a perspective that's already messed up in the original. It's key-stoned in the wrong direction and gets bigger at the top even though we are looking up at it. The same applies to the buildings in the back ground.

You been messing around Steve?

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Posted on 28/04/23 8:56:59 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
DavidMac wrote:
I've just noticed that I didn't mess up the perspective on the building. I merely extended a perspective that's already messed up in the original. It's key-stoned in the wrong direction and gets bigger at the top even though we are looking up at it. The same applies to the buildings in the back ground.

You been messing around Steve?


The old wide-angle lens trick, pointed slightly downward for some groovy distortion...



Posted on 29/04/23 09:09:47 AM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
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The old wide-angle lens trick, pointed slightly downward for some groovy distortion...


But that's the odd thing Loyd - it doesn't look like that. The picture looks to be taken from eye level and the horizon is bang in the middle. That doesn't imply a tilt down.

Even odder is that when you do get key-stoning from wide angle tilt it is always much stronger on foreground objects. But here the distortion is stronger in the background. Look at the extreme distortion on the distant building on the right hand side. It's completely at odds with the foreground. To my eye this all implies a post production distortion.

We know that Steve usually uses his phone for his pictures and is often obliged to use a very wide angle when he is in confined spaces and has no other choice. In these cases he often corrects in post if it seems desirable.

What baffles me here that I cannot see any reason for this very uncomfortable perspective that to my eye looks completely reversed. There must be one ......... but I cannot for the life of me guess what!

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Posted on 29/04/23 11:39:15 AM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
DavidMac wrote:
lwc wrote:
The old wide-angle lens trick, pointed slightly downward for some groovy distortion...


The picture looks to be taken from eye level and the horizon is bang in the middle. That doesn't imply a tilt down.


I must disagree David, After applying a grid and finding the centerline of the frame, it still appears to me that the phone/camera was facing downward a bit.

Of course, only Steve can tell us if the image provided is a crop from the original... there are far too many variables involved to give a totally accurate analysis of the image.






Posted on 29/04/23 1:00:26 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
Well now this interesting. Looking at your grid I must concede that you are quite correct. I have worked this a bit further and we can see clearly that the horizon is above the midpoint and the camera is tilted down.

I'm still astonished by the amount of convergence of verticals this seems to have caused. Steve must have been on a very wide lens.

Looking at these verticals we must now assume that the 'cage' is leaning quite markedly inwards. I think, because it is dominant and we expect it to be vertical ,the eye is deceived. It would seem mine definitely was!

I will be very interested to hear what Steve has to say.



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Posted on 29/04/23 1:18:33 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
A bit more distortion for grins...



Posted on 29/04/23 2:45:42 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
I think the distortion can be explained quite easily - the photograph was taken using one the new wide-angle telephoto lenses with tilt-shift control.🤣🤣

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Posted on 29/04/23 3:58:09 PM
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Re: Challenge 953: The roadworks cage
Could be Gordon, the latest full frame 12-1000mm f1.4-1.8 T/S Bridge Camera sounds about right...
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