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Posted on 12/04/24 07:55:39 AM
Steve Caplin
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Challenge 1000

The 1000th Friday Challenge



Back in July 2004, I had the idea for setting a weekly project for Forum members to engage with. Over ten years later, we've managed 999 Friday Challenges between us.

Here's your image for this rather special week. It's a street scene in France, and it contains four objects I'd like you to find a way of incorporating in the scene.

But here's the catch: you have to do it in the style of another Forum member. I think you all know each other's work well enough to understand what's required.

You can submit multiple entries if you like.

Since the image contains several elements, I've provided it as a high res Photoshop file, which you can download here.

No excuses! You will find time for this one!




Posted on 12/04/24 11:45:14 AM
josephine harvatt
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Re: Challenge 1000
lawks!

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Posted on 12/04/24 9:32:25 PM
DavidMac
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Well this could end a few friendships!

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Posted on 13/04/24 11:20:57 AM
lwc
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Re: Challenge 1000
Since this is a ‘no excuse’ challenge and I have another busy week coming up, I offer this quickie… my apologies to anyone who believes this to be an attempt to recreate ‘their’ style.




Posted on 13/04/24 5:01:43 PM
Ant Snell
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Re: Challenge 1000
This challenge probably deserved After Effects but unfortunately, I no longer have a working copy since upgrading my PC so I have done the animation the best I can using PowerPoint. Almost in the words of Rolf Harris “Can you see who it is yet?” Vimeo Link http://vimeo.com/manage/videos/934287327/privacy




Posted on 13/04/24 5:10:12 PM
DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1000
This is a thirty framer. You can click and enlarge. Might take a moment load.

Should one of our number feel I am attempting their style but not up to standard, I can only say that this is my first ever attempt at animation!

Additionally I had to learn from scratch how to create animated GIFS in Photoshop. Not sure that's an experience I want to repeat too often, so there is not going to be an new 'GIF Kid' on the block.

If anyone cares to point out that moving the lantern slide back and forth would not actually animate the dinosaur on screen as shown, please feel free to do so ......

........ but don't expect a particularly civil answer!



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Posted on 13/04/24 5:17:40 PM
GKB
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Re: Challenge 1000
Ant Snell wrote:
This challenge probably deserved After Effects but unfortunately, I no longer have a working copy since upgrading my PC so I have done the animation the best I can using PowerPoint.



Ant - have a look at FX Home’s Hit Film It’s an exceptionally good replacement for after Effects. I ran into the same issue and didn’t want to be subjected to Adobe’s rental scheme. I use this for pretty much all my animations.

Although I use the paid for version, the freebie still has a tremendous amount of functionality


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Posted on 13/04/24 5:21:36 PM
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Re: Challenge 1000
The really difficult thing here is not trying to be someone else, it's trying not to be yourself! I had to keep stopping myself from doing 'David' things that I really wanted to do but which had no place in a different style.

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Posted on 14/04/24 11:43:55 AM
michael sinclair
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Re: Challenge 1000
Great effort at animation David!

In the inimitable "style" of Michael Sinclair:

Click on the MP4 link below




Posted on 14/04/24 1:47:25 PM
Ant Snell
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Re: Challenge 1000
Ant - have a look at FX Home’s Hit Film
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Thanks, Gordon I will give this a look when I get some spare time. I have tried others but not FX Home.

BTW did you spot the Biplain? this was for you

Posted on 14/04/24 2:37:52 PM
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Posted on 14/04/24 2:39:31 PM
Frank
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Re: Challenge 1000
DavidMac wrote:
The really difficult thing here is not trying to be someone else, it's trying not to be yourself! I had to keep stopping myself from doing 'David' things that I really wanted to do but which had no place in a different style.

Agree David.



Posted on 14/04/24 2:58:32 PM
GKB
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Re: Challenge 1000
Ant Snell wrote:
Ant - have a look at FX Home’s Hit Film


Thanks, Gordon I will give this a look when I get some spare time. I have tried others but not FX Home.

BTW did you spot the Biplain? this was for you
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Yes I saw the bi-plane ; it’s a Stearman PT 17. I used them occasionally as camera platforms. They were made to train biiiig Texan pilots so there is bags of room in the cockpit for photographic equipment.


Hit Film works in exactly the same way as After Effects and can do 95% of the work … and it’s much cheaper. FX Home has plenty of tutorials to get you going.

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Posted on 14/04/24 10:16:22 PM
Ben Boardman
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Mea Culpa. Due to lack of experience in Magical Photoshop and shortage of time, I did generate parts of the background with AI

Posted on 14/04/24 10:22:45 PM
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Posted on 15/04/24 12:30:48 PM
josephine harvatt
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Before I downloaded the file I didnt realise that the images were on seperate layers - the relief!!!

Father Todd Unctuous of the Brothers of Perpetual Indifference was fed up of his sheep being carried off, so he called in pest control to set a trap.

Not nearly clever enough to make an animated version







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Posted on 15/04/24 8:59:41 PM
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Re: Challenge 1000
Well lots of fun so far, but in some cases I am not too sure whose style it's supposed to be. It's much, much harder than it seems.

I have tried to do what Steve asked for and taught myself some basic animation (well GIFfery) so as to post in another's distinctive style.

Sorry this is going to be a bit wordy.

Having put quite a bit of effort in attempting to animate I decided to try and extend it into my own style, but taking what I already has a the basis. So this is now mostly in my own style and no longer conforms to Steve's request. Mike's Magic Lantern, has become Mac's Magic Lantern.

Since I have never animated before, the animation is very crude and basic. It's a GIF again because that was where I started. It's 134 frames, so it may need time to load. Once loaded you should be able to click in the image to enlarge if you want. If it's too much for anyone's machine let me know and I'll post a smaller version.

What I have tried to do is the following:

1) The video loops. So first task was to make the sky seamless. (Surprisingly difficult. I had to make this method up for myself, so there's probably a far better way if I did but know.)

2) Make the scene much darker and moodier and generally try and use lighting for interest.

3) Make the movements of the man moving the slide carrier smoother.

4) Make the on screen transitions consistent with a slide carrier change.

5) Make the light from the screen on the ground and the children vary according to the onscreen movement.

If there is one thing I have learned it is that creating animations from photoshop layers is tedious and time consuming. I'm not tempted to dig any deeper. On the other hand, for a complete first timer, it enabled me to carry out some quite subtle animated lighting effects.



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Posted on 15/04/24 10:18:03 PM
Ben Boardman
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Re: Challenge 1000
David, I would say that you certainly achieved your aims, and then some -quite a difference.

Posted on 16/04/24 02:16:40 AM
Mariner
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Re: Challenge 1000
David, I just love your midnight movie!

Only one question: why do those clouds have move at hurricane speed? is it that hard to slow them down?

...I have tried to do what Steve asked for and taught myself some basic animation...


Steve didn't ask us still-life artists to learn some basic animation. I once dabbled in basic Photoshop animation and found it to be tedious to create. So from me this week yet more still-life.



Posted on 16/04/24 09:29:53 AM
DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1000
Hi Michael. Thank you. It was a whole new challenge for me.

This is going to be wordy again.

Second question first. Quite right ... Steve didn't ask us to learn animation. Steve asked us to create an image in the style of another contributor. I found that extremely hard. In the end I picked t'other Michael as my chosen style because bold fast moving skies are a recognisable signature feature of many of his animations (and because I liked the idea of 'Mike's Magic Lantern' as a slogan on the van). Thus, to do what Steve asked, my choice of Michael obliged me to teach myself basic animation and GIF creation from scratch.

Now your first question. Why speeding clouds? In my original 'Michael' submission that was because they were emulating his style.

In my second submission I wanted to see how far I could impose my own style of lighting and whether I could 'animate' the lighting itself.

Having done this and made the rest of the image 'smoother', I found the jump in the sky when the video loops back to start again very disturbing. One of Steve's frequent comments about Michael's, and sometimes Loyd's, animations has been that it was a pity the sky didn't seamlessly loop. I decided to try and address this and make my sky loop seamlessly.

This proved much, much harder than I thought. What I discovered was that the sky has to travel about 25% more than the entire width of the image in each single loop. Since my animation was only 134 frames that meant a fast moving sky. The speed is not a matter of choice it is a consequence of necessity. To achieve this with a slow moving sky would need a loop running to several thousand frames. Animation in Photoshop is at best 'clunky' and doing this from Photoshop layers without a proper animation app would be total folly!

I will post separately on what I did to achieve a seamless sky later in the week in the problems section. I want to know what the animators think and whether they can suggest a better solution. So animators please do look out and respond.


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